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shilo

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I finally have enough $$$ to build my server I am going the AMD route and I would like to order it in the next couple of days, but which Mboard ? Abit, Asus, MSI, I am looking at the Asus A7M266-D, but I will need raid eventully not sure if I can just buy a card, but any help would be appericated.:rolleyes:
 

Spec_Ops2087

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MSI is by far the most user friendly and is the best Overclocker but do remember it is not the most stable...the tyan is the most stable....But I do vote for the MSI




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diehrd

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I would suggest the Tyan board IF YOU plan not to over clock it.I suggest this because the Tyan is stable as a stone and the S2460 can be bought for $100.00 or less if you shop around for it.

If you want a tweakable board MSI all the way.........
 
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shilo

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MSI KD7 ???

I went to newegg and they say that the kd7 only supports up to a mp2000, but at the MSI website they say " supports up to a mp2100+ or higher" so who is right?

shilo
 

Mr B

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Re: MSI KD7 ???

shilo said:
I went to newegg and they say that the kd7 only supports up to a mp2000, but at the MSI website they say " supports up to a mp2100+ or higher" so who is right?

shilo

I've got a pair of XP1600+'s on mine, unlocked, and running a 12.5 x multi. the FSB is bumped to 140, giving me 1750 each.

The BIOS now calls/recognizes them as MP 2100+'s.

MSI would be right....;)
 
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shilo

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Re: Re: MSI KD7 ???

Mr B said:


I've got a pair of XP1600+'s on mine, unlocked, and running a 12.5 x multi. the FSB is bumped to 140, giving me 1750 each.

The BIOS now calls/recognizes them as MP 2100+'s.

MSI would be right....;)

SO would you recommend the MSI as well? This will be a commercial server for my business and I just wan to be sure it is stable.
 

cmcquistion

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I would recommend the MSI board over any other, period.

Tyan boards may be stable, but they are not particularly tweakable or fast. MSI makes a very good board with good tech support, BIOS updates, and drivers.
 

Audioaficionado

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You want the most stable board.

You don't want to overclock.

If the MSI can overclock, it has to be very stable when running at stock fsb.

Tyan is about a C note cheaper and also very stable at stock fsb.

Your call...
 

cmcquistion

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Tyan has no tweaks at all, not even basic memory tweaks and their tech support is awful. I bought one of those refurbished Tyan 2460's from Newegg. It took over a month to get a working system from the time I first received it. I had to send it to Tyan TWICE. Yes, TWICE, the same motherboard. They spent 3 weeks not fixing it, then sent it back to me still broken. I had to pay out of my pocket to RMA it, twice. I had to wait for them to ship me a replacement, twice. I had to deal with their lying tech support, which does not include one English-speaking person, twice. Personally, I will never purchase another Tyan product of any kind, for any price.

Your call...
 

Henry Rollins II

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My retailer lists returns percentage for each item on their website. Intresting reading actually, it should say at least something about quality.

Gigabyte, Microstar and Soltek has return percentage of 0.7-2.4%, whereas Abit, Asus, Soyo has 2.0->5.0%. All Epox AMD boards has more than 5%. (but their socket478 boards all have less than 1,5%)

Products with VIA chipsets has more returns than those with AMD chipsets. P4 and AMD boards has about the same level of returns. FCPGA motherboards has a lot lower return numbers. Boards with faster ram(DDR,RDRAM) is returned more often than those with PC133.
 

NeoN068

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Spec_Ops2087 said:
MSI is by far the most user friendly and is the best Overclocker but do remember it is not the most stable...the tyan is the most stable....But I do vote for the MSI

Spec

Tyan=poop!!!!!!! My freind has a Tyan dual and it's crap in my pants!
 
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Henry Rollins II said:
My retailer lists returns percentage for each item on their website. Intresting reading actually, it should say at least something about quality.

Gigabyte, Microstar and Soltek has return percentage of 0.7-2.4%, whereas Abit, Asus, Soyo has 2.0->5.0%. All Epox AMD boards has more than 5%. (but their socket478 boards all have less than 1,5%)

Products with VIA chipsets has more returns than those with AMD chipsets. P4 and AMD boards has about the same level of returns. FCPGA motherboards has a lot lower return numbers. Boards with faster ram(DDR,RDRAM) is returned more often than those with PC133.

hmmm....interesting stats i Guess what some of my concern with MSI is their warranty can't find one?
 

cmcquistion

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Hmmm. Check around in the MSI motherboard forum and see if someone knows what the standard MSI warranty period is. I'm sure you will ifnd people who know, over there. I often read excerpts of people saying that they sent off an RMA to MSI, so you can find real-world MSI RMA experience over there.