Help with my 6600K overclock

[wingman99]

Well from what I observer is you can set fixed voltage for a fixed load, however all loads are not fixed they go up and down. So my observation when I set Adaptive for a fixed load sometimes the software does not show Vcore increase if there is more room for the VID to increase do to load. Like you said a Higher fixed Vcore should have the same results. Makes me wonder if he was using the newer Prime95 v28.10 FMA3 with increased load what his Vcore would be with Adaptive?

 

[EarthDog]

Yes, but shouldn't it take the same amount of total vcore (oncluding offset) to be stable under the same load conditions as if it was fixed?

Yes.

If you are stable at 4.3Ghz and 1.2V, then you will be stable there with adaptive, oFF set, or manual. The key here is proper testing.. if you don't test for fma3 etc, and end up using the instruction set, it may not be stable. That said, I know I don't use it or I am stable as I test with AIDA64 only these days.

But the bottom line is they should all be the same. There isn't a reason why one method would require more. I donthink mess with the offset/adaptive...too much basic math. I just it directly and let windows tweak the voltage and clocks. Simple.

 

[trents]

Except that I would assume using Adaptive with offset may allow one to user lower voltages when not loading the CPU. Otherwise, I don't know why they would supply that offset feature in bios.

 

[EarthDog]

Maybe? I don't know. All I know is it clocks down on idle to ~1.6GHz and ~.9V, then on load I am back up to 4.2GHz and 1.3V.

 

[cizar39]

So I ran IXT all night, 10 hours. Everything passed.
It would seem I'm stable. Prime and Fulmark passed for two hours, and I may do it for longer in the near future just to be sure.
Best part about this is that my voltages are much lower and I have a much more stable overclock.
Thanks!

 

[ilikefinefood]

So I ran IXT all night, 10 hours. Everything passed.
It would seem I'm stable. Prime and Fulmark passed for two hours, and I may do it for longer in the near future just to be sure.
Best part about this is that my voltages are much lower and I have a much more stable overclock.
Thanks!

Wish it was this easy for me but congrats mate

 

[trents]

So I ran IXT all night, 10 hours. Everything passed.
It would seem I'm stable. Prime and Fulmark passed for two hours, and I may do it for longer in the near future just to be sure.
Best part about this is that my voltages are much lower and I have a much more stable overclock.
Thanks!

You're good to go.

 

[wingman99]

Maybe? I don't know. All I know is it clocks down on idle to ~1.6GHz and ~.9V, then on load I am back up to 4.2GHz and 1.3V.

When Folks use Adaptive offset VID varies with load and Clock speed, temp. like when I set a 4.2Ghz overclock to Realbench, VID 1.226v Then when I run prime95 VID goes up to 1.277v

SVID=VID

Serial Voltage Identification "SVID": A few generations back, Intel introduced serial voltage identification (SVID) which is a protocol the CPU uses to communicate with the voltage regulator. The power control unit inside the CPU uses SVID to communicate with the PWM controller that controls the voltage regulator. This allows the CPU to pick its optimum voltage depending on current conditions (temperature, frequency, load, etc.). You can actually use a combination of SVID and LLC to get an optimal VCore instead of manually setting it. If you start your system without making any changes, your VID (which some refer to as the stock voltage) might be 1.25v, but if you lower your CPU multiplier and restart, you will find your VID has dropped automatically. The reverse happens if you increase your clock and do not set any VCore. Intel's latest CPUs are able to pick their own voltage, and this comes into play if you want to utilize "offset" / "adaptive" voltage. The good news is that if you come from Haswell, you should look forward to a CPU that has the same or better durability.

Read more: http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index5.html

 

[Fasttrack]

Folks,

Swinging of voltages and/or frequencies, is not the way to go when you are in high end competitive benchmarking.
Speedstep, C-states, adaptive, offset are words that must be forgotten.
Auto is also a big NO-NO.
Everything must be set with manual adjustments, should someone wish to hit the absolute max in the system.

 

[trents]

Folks,

Swinging of voltages and/or frequencies, is not the way to go when you are in high end competitive benchmarking.
Speedstep, C-states, adaptive, offset are words that must be forgotten.
Auto is also a big NO-NO.
Everything must be set with manual adjustments, should someone wish to hit the absolute max in the system.

Yeah, but I don't think OP is in that category. I think he just wanted a reasonable overclock on his system that was reliable for general use, not competitive benchmarking.

 

[cizar39]

Yeah, but I don't think OP is in that category. I think he just wanted a reasonable overclock on his system that was reliable for general use, not competitive benchmarking.

Correct. I'm not looking for a large overclock. 4.4 is, what? close to 25% and it doesn't appear the voltages will decay my CPU rapidly overtime. I play video games and am not looking to fold or whatever the latest competitive benchmark is.
I like stability and the peace of mind that I was able to get some extra juice out of the processor for free.

 

[Fasttrack]

Apologies gentlemen.
Did not read the whole thread from the start

 

[Woomack]

It's still good to disable additional C states ( C3+ ) and too many offset voltage settings as on some setups there are problems with stability.

 

[wingman99]

I never had any problem from Sand bridge to sky lake with everything on including C states, overclocked to 4.5GHz.

 

[EarthDog]

When Folks use Adaptive offset VID varies with load and Clock speed, temp. like when I set a 4.2Ghz overclock to Realbench, VID 1.226v Then when I run prime95 VID goes up to 1.277v

SVID=VID

My 'I don't know maybe' was facetious. My point was you can still have power savings with a manual voltage instead of offset and it could be easier.

Anyway, glad the OP is taken care of. Well done OCF!

 

[cizar39]

My 'I don't know maybe' was facetious. My point was you can still have power savings with a manual voltage instead of offset and it could be easier.

Anyway, glad the OP is taken care of. Well done OCF!

Yes. Very impressed with the help here, thanks to all. Was on another forum and not one response.

 

[wingman99]

My 'I don't know maybe' was facetious. My point was you can still have power savings with a manual voltage instead of offset and it could be easier.

Anyway, glad the OP is taken care of. Well done OCF!

For me it is not about power savings. What I like about running Adaptive offset is the CPU is not running 1.332v all the time, with less load or at Idle the CPU runs at 1.248v-0.624v.

 

[EarthDog]

That doesn't phase me in the least with my upgrade frequency (~3 years on a daily driver). Wouldn't worry me if I kept it for 5 years either.

 

[wingman99]

I had degradation with a Q9550 at 4.0Ghz and 1.30v so I'm more careful since then.

 

[EarthDog]

Considering around 1.25V was stock voltage, you may want to look at that as an anomaly considering, well, the forums, and every piece of anecdotes evidence posted here of long running, no power saving rigs.

I recall my q9650 running 4.2ghz at 1.4V+for a couple years before I gave it to my mom.. ran until her cat killed the pc a couple years ago, lol!

As always, to each their own.. but I wouldn't worry under 1.4V personally with skylake.