hi i am looking to make a new gaming pc are these parts good?

[fornoob]

@ed:

Come back to the link of the garbage PSU. In the "overview", I found this:

"Because everything “just works” right out of the box, it involves virtually no extra effort to get a PC – new or old – up and running."

This is.... priceless

 

[EarthDog]

right? Until it puffs out some magic smoke (that wont give you a buzz) and takes out your PC with it! Boy oh boy...

 

[frederic2707]

hey i have a quick question the ASRock Z77 pro 4 and pro 3 what is the diffrence are they just as good?

 

[fornoob]

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722151

Please read it fred if you want to know what ED and myself are talking about

 

[fornoob]

The power stage of the Asrock Pro (3 or 4) are a little to short for proper overclocking

Go for an extreme 4, it is rock solid and the best bang for the buck!

 

[frederic2707]

The power stage of the Asrock Pro (3 or 4) are a little to short for proper overclocking

Go for an extreme 4, it is rock solid and the best bang for the buck!

now what is the diffrence between an extreme4 and an axtreme 4-m

 

[EarthDog]

hey i have a quick question the ASRock Z77 pro 4 and pro 3 what is the diffrence are they just as good?

Not too terribly much.. I think there are less power phases, so when overclocking things may run a bit warmer... but with moderate overclocks, that board would be fine.

 

[fornoob]

m is for microATX: the size of the PCB is just smaller

I don't think there are any significant difference between them except the number of PCIe slots, but I could be wrong since I didn't even know this MB exist!! (not a micro ATX user ^^')

 

[frederic2707]

Not too terribly much.. I think there are less power phases, so when overclocking things may run a bit warmer... but with moderate overclocks, that board would be fine.

the m version is 13 euro cheaper so should i just get the extreme 4
also i have a 300 watt psu laying around of GOOD quality it will not explode is 300 wat enough i doubt it but what do you think

 

[fornoob]

thhe m version is 13 euro cheaper so should i just get the extreme 4

They are the same for the caps/ software/ chipset so the only main difference is size. You can go for the M version since you don't plan to go for a triple crossfire

 

[fornoob]

the m version is 13 euro cheaper so should i just get the extreme 4
also i have a 300 watt psu laying around of GOOD quality it will not explode is 300 wat enough i doubt it but what do you think

Could you give us a link to your 300W PSU?

It depends on your OCing target since OCing increases the power consumption...

IF your PSU really does 300W, then you could make it ( a 7770 + i5 3570K at stock level + the rest ~200W max). I wouldn't recommend to go over 250W with a 300W PSU (in long term).
If you plan a moderate OC (like 4.2 GHz), then it still should be fine IF the PSU is quality

 

[frederic2707]

Could you give us a link to your 300W PSU?

It depends on your OCing target since OCing increases the power consumption...

IF your PSU really does 300W, then you could make it ( a 7770 + i5 3570K at stock level + the rest ~200W max). I wouldn't recommend to go over 250W with a 300W PSU (in long term).
If you plan a moderate OC (like 4.2 GHz), then it still should be fine IF the PSU is quality

i can not give you a link because i pulled it out of another pc
i will take some pics later and post them here

 

[fornoob]

i can not give you a link because i pulled it out of another pc

Ok, so to avoid risks, unless your PSU is a seasonic, you would rather go for the CX 430 ^^'

EDIT: Ok, I have to leave right now, I'll come back later or let ED deal with it

 

[EarthDog]

also i have a 300 watt psu laying around of GOOD quality it will not explode is 300 wat enough i doubt it but what do you think

Oh yeah? Screenshots of the label with all the info so we can confirm.

That said, with overclocking, 300W is a bit low... and leaves absolutely zero room for getting a better GPU down the road.

 

[frederic2707]

Oh yeah? Screenshots of the label with all the info so we can confirm.

That said, with overclocking, 300W is a bit low... and leaves absolutely zero room for getting a better GPU down the road.

ok then i will just get a new one and what kind of case should i get i mean how many fans should be in there etc

 

[EarthDog]

Case is up to you really. The one you selected is fine to me. Just make sure it has a couple intake and exhaust and all will be well.

 

[frederic2707]

Case is up to you really. The one you selected is fine to me. Just make sure it has a couple intake and exhaust and all will be well.

do you know where i could get a cheap 7870 and can you have a look at this
cpu AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition processor - Socket AM3/AM2 + (3400MHz)
ram Corsair Vengeance RAM (PC1600, 8GB, CL9) DDR3 Memory Kit
psu Cooler Master GX650 voeding (650 watt, ATX23)
case cit jupiter
gpu Sapphire 11199-00-20G HD7870 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
hdd seagate barracuda 1tb 7200RPM
mobo Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

 

[EarthDog]

Id rather have a CX600 than that CMaster PSU.

 

[fornoob]

do you know where i could get a cheap 7870 and can you have a look at this
cpu AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition processor - Socket AM3/AM2 + (3400MHz)
ram Corsair Vengeance RAM (PC1600, 8GB, CL9) DDR3 Memory Kit
psu Cooler Master GX650 voeding (650 watt, ATX23)
case cit jupiter
gpu Sapphire 11199-00-20G HD7870 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
hdd seagate barracuda 1tb 7200RPM
mobo Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

650W is overkill... If you plan to upgrade, consider a 500W or so but no need for more

This rig is not the same budget than the other... what should we do? Stick with the other budget or this one?

The CPU is old, 3 years old... so not really worth it compared to the other CPU we previously presented

Be careful in your choices of CPU, I don't know what you have against the system that ED proposed you at the beginning ^^'

 

[frederic2707]

Id rather have a CX600 than that CMaster PSU.

can you have a look at this list please the 6850 should be faster than the 7770 i am looking at amd again because of the price so i can get a bit beter gpu