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hi i am looking to make a new gaming pc are these parts good?
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OK, so let us be clear:
AMD CPU -> you won't be able to do what you're aiming to do (games + multithreaded heavy applications) for this kind of budget.
Don't consider old CPUs, they are about the same than the actual ones in lower range (high end from last year -> middle range this year, middle range last year -> low range this year).
So basically, you have the choice:
Do what you want to do while going Intel
OR
Go AMD but accept some sacrifices.
AMD is great for many applications, but can't be taken in your particular case: you are asking too much for a small budget
For the GPU:
Yes, the 6850 goes faster than the 7770 but consumes 50 more watts: you will really quickly repay your 20 or so euros with your electricity bill
The problem is the same than for CPUs: older consumes more, costs about the same and don't have necessarly far greater performance than the new ones in a lower end.
The 7770 is fine for your low resolution, don't worry about it.
For the PSU:
Go better quality and lower wattage: as easy as that. The best quality are Seasonic but it may be out of your budget. Corsair build really good PSU at low power (the CX series are Corsair).
If you really need help, please be clear about what you want and what is exactly your budget!
If it remains the same than what you explained at the beginning of the thread, the answer has already been given by ED.
AMD CPU -> you won't be able to do what you're aiming to do (games + multithreaded heavy applications) for this kind of budget.
Don't consider old CPUs, they are about the same than the actual ones in lower range (high end from last year -> middle range this year, middle range last year -> low range this year).
So basically, you have the choice:
Do what you want to do while going Intel
OR
Go AMD but accept some sacrifices.
AMD is great for many applications, but can't be taken in your particular case: you are asking too much for a small budget
For the GPU:
Yes, the 6850 goes faster than the 7770 but consumes 50 more watts: you will really quickly repay your 20 or so euros with your electricity bill
The problem is the same than for CPUs: older consumes more, costs about the same and don't have necessarly far greater performance than the new ones in a lower end.
The 7770 is fine for your low resolution, don't worry about it.
For the PSU:
Go better quality and lower wattage: as easy as that. The best quality are Seasonic but it may be out of your budget. Corsair build really good PSU at low power (the CX series are Corsair).
If you really need help, please be clear about what you want and what is exactly your budget!
If it remains the same than what you explained at the beginning of the thread, the answer has already been given by ED.
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OK, so let us be clear:
AMD CPU -> you won't be able to do what you're aiming to do (games + multithreaded heavy applications) for this kind of budget.
Don't consider old CPUs, they are about the same than the actual ones in lower range (high end from last year -> middle range this year, middle range last year -> low range this year).
So basically, you have the choice:
Do what you want to do while going Intel
OR
Go AMD but accept some sacrifices.
AMD is great for many applications, but can't be taken in your particular case: you are asking too much for a small budget
For the GPU:
Yes, the 6850 goes faster than the 7770 but consumes 50 more watts: you will really quickly repay your 20 or so euros with your electricity bill
The problem is the same than for CPUs: older consumes more, costs about the same and don't have necessarly far greater performance than the new ones in a lower end.
The 7770 is fine for your low resolution, don't worry about it.
For the PSU:
Go better quality and lower wattage: as easy as that. The best quality are Seasonic but it may be out of your budget. Corsair build really good PSU at low power (the CX series are Corsair).
If you really need help, please be clear about what you want and what is exactly your budget!
If it remains the same than what you explained at the beginning of the thread, the answer has already been given by ED.
i am only 15 so my mom pays the bills and here is the list http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/wishlist/4OO2OVEF377C/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_wl
which one of the amd chips is better and i know but i spoke to my teacher and possibly we will stop working with all of our programs and just work with inventor 2013 wich can use all cores at the same time
As mentioned earlier, the 8c CPU (FX) would be better than the quad core for applications that use more cores than four.
That said, are you sure that motherboard supports the FX line? Im not an AMD guy so I dont know. I suggest you go to the Asrock website and navigate to that board and check its CPU compatibility chart to confirm/deny.
EDIT: Looks like it does with the original bios so you are good there.
That said, are you sure that motherboard supports the FX line? Im not an AMD guy so I dont know. I suggest you go to the Asrock website and navigate to that board and check its CPU compatibility chart to confirm/deny.
EDIT: Looks like it does with the original bios so you are good there.
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hi i found a used 560ti in mint condition for 90 quid is it worth it or should i get a 6850 or a 7770 the 6850 costs about 126 pounds and the 7770 100 pounds
LOL, wasnt your other thread closed? Have you bought your PC yet 
? We went over this in one of your other threads...I linked you a comparison (here actually, post 61) for the 6850 and 7770. You can use that same link to plug in the 560ti and compare it. I can tell you that the 560ti is faster than the 7770, and I would imagine the 6850 as well. Use that link to confirm.
Its up to you to use that information given and make the choice if its 'worth it' or not.
? We went over this in one of your other threads...I linked you a comparison (here actually, post 61) for the 6850 and 7770. You can use that same link to plug in the 560ti and compare it. I can tell you that the 560ti is faster than the 7770, and I would imagine the 6850 as well. Use that link to confirm.Its up to you to use that information given and make the choice if its 'worth it' or not.
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which cpu is beter the piledriver 8320 or the phenom ii 1045t if i get the 1045 i can get a beter gpu
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how does the piledriver live up to the 3750k or the 2500k
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i have 2 threads but in one there are no replies you only replied in this thread
My apologies, I didnt reply in your duplicate thread (still should only start one!!!).
Anyway, It depends on the applications you use. If they make heavy use of more than 4 threads, then the PD is the way to go. If its quad or less, I would go 2500K/3570K.
Anyway, It depends on the applications you use. If they make heavy use of more than 4 threads, then the PD is the way to go. If its quad or less, I would go 2500K/3570K.
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can you please delete my second thread i do not know how
and also 6850 or 7850 they are 40 euros apart
Above I linked a site that compares videocards... check that, but a 7850 is faster, uses less power, etc.
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Above I linked a site that compares videocards... check that, but a 7850 is faster, uses less power, etc.
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can a laptop hdd 2.5 inch be mounted in ap desktop pc? i can get one from a friend 750gb harddrive for 5 euro
There are brackets for doing so, yes. But note laptop HDD's are usually slow (saves power/heat). Check out the model, RPM, cache size, etc first. It should be 7200RPM. I personally wouldnt get anything less than that for such a nice system you are building. The HDD is by far the slowest part in your system.
Disregard if that is only for data and not yor OS.
Disregard if that is only for data and not yor OS.
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yeah i would use it for data and get an ssd because i have a load of hardrives : 1.5tb hdd 7200 rpm external hdd usb3.0 a 2 360gb harddrives and then i can get another 750gb harddrive
goddangit last time i checked i could get a 240gb ssd for 90 euro but now they are all the way up to 160
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ok so my brother comes tomorow because he needs a new pc as well but he has made dozens of pcs but these are the parts i settled with can you have a look i decided to go with the piledriver and will get a custom cooler later when i start overclocking
here is the list http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/wishlist/4OO2OVEF377C/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_wl
here is the list http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/wishlist/4OO2OVEF377C/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_wl
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hi so i will not do the amd build but i will go intel these are the parts
i7 2600k http://www.amazon.co.uk/INTEL-I7-26...1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355760619&sr=1-3 £208
gtx 640 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355760910&sr=1-1 £78
case zalman z11 plus http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zalman-Z11-...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355761180&sr=1-1 £50
corsair vengeance 8gb http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ...1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355761215&sr=1-2 £35
usb 3.0 adaptor http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CB...computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355761256&sr=1-1-spell £6
AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355761436&sr=1-1 £83
Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply Unit http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Bui...1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355761482&sr=1-4 £56
which costs 634 euro/840 dollars
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ok... this thread went about the way i expected it to. Someone wants an AMD chip, and the forum spends the next 4 pages telling him an intel can do it better for cheaper (which is true sometimes) then pushes square pegs into round holes when the OP says he needs certain things an AMD can do well, which is why he wants one.
OP... understand Intel does produce far better chips then AMD for "single threaded" tasks. For the money, pound for pound, intel has the best gaming CPU out there (or pair of them depending on how you look at it). Now that this disclamer is out of the way.
all the 3d cad software running concurently, depending on how you're using it can be a beast on a high end multicore system. AMD certainly CAN play in that feild quite well. For the money this is the sweet point in the new FX chips price/performance frankly. Considering a new FX 8350/6300 will give you a responsive and excellent high end gaming experience (all be it a few frames slower then an intel chip) as well as blow a comparitive intel chip out of the water in the high end cad functions they make an excellent option for you.
So... since your goal is a "gaming capable" Cad number crunching chip an FX makes a lot of sense. So lets make it fit your budget.
CPU: AMD FX-6300 ($129.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($24.99 @ Newegg)
MB: Biostar TA970XE ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB ($34.98 @ Outlet PC)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB ($99.99 @ B&H)
HD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case w/420W Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $769.91
That's inside your budget... and would be a great feature rich gaming pc as well. If you have a few dollars more laying around upgrading that CPU to an 8350 would show you stronger multitasking processing.
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