hmm... the battle of the bigboys- sk6 vs glaciator

[Tambo]

well, what do you guys think? i'm considering the sk6 w/ delta and buying a tube of as2... alltogether, it comes to around 55-60 bux, which i'm willing to pay. i'm thinking it cools a bit less than the glaciator, but i'd rather have a 330g part than 780 for taking to a lan. i don't go to lans that much, but when i do, i'd rather not take the hsf off every time. only prob is, i heard that the sk6's clip allows a bit of leeway once it's clipped on as opposed to the glaciator's very secure solid clip. so, do you guys think that w/ this in mind the glaciator would be a better choice or not? until recently, i was leaning more towards thermalright, but knowing about the sk6's clip, i'm thinkin i might wanna even take that off for a lan if there's a chance of the heatsink moving a bit during transport. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

mark

 

[ken257]

I take it you are running an AMD since you want a big heavy HSF to get rid of the heat. The best way to go is probably the Swiftech. It is big and heavy but the difference is it bolts to the motherboard through the 4 holes instead of using the socket lugs. This will give you great cooling and worry free trasnporting to lan games.

 

[Tambo]

yeah, i'd go with the swifty if i could but the 60 bux i'd pay for the sk6 w/ a delta, a tube of as2, and shipping, would already be stretching it a bit. the swifty would run me around 70-80 with a good fan, and then the price of shipping at around 5, plus as2 for about 9 and that's a bit out of my range. :-(. of the 2, i think a lot more people here will end up w/ the glaciator so i can get help if i need it and i know that andy lemont will listen to real people and help more than the ppl at thermalright so i'm thinkin about the glaciator at the moment, of course in a few more minutes i'll switch back to sk6... hmm, maybe i should check for estrogen, too many mood swings.

 

[Hoot]

Check with the different resellers who carry the Swiftech MC-462. They do get returns from time to time and they can't (shouldn't) sell tham as new. Some will even take your name and email address and let you know if/when one comes in. Beat the bush a little, starting here: http://www.crazypc.com

Hoot

 

[Slake]

I'm thiking real strong about the SK6. There are two weights though. The SK6 is 330grams and the SK6ab is 230grams.
I found that the resellers aren't listing whether it's the "ab" or not, so check the weight specs.I couldn't find the weight specs at Plycon
http://www.plycon.com/tright.htm . Looks like the SK6ab (shorter than the SK6)
Coolergys and KD computers do list the weights.
http://www.coolerguys.com/CPUCOOL/extreme.htm has the 330gram model for $49.95 with a delta,or $39.95 w/no fan. This one is the one I want for my PIII 700 (which I ordered tuesday-not here yet)
http://www.kdcomputers.com/ Has the 230gram for $47.50 w/delta or $37.50 w/no fan- This one is under the max approved AMD weight.
I was on the pre-order list for the Glaciator but my confirmation Email is on a drive in my dead computer and I can't get that drive to work in this OEM HP piece-o-crap. The waiting list for the Millenium Glaciator is too long. I don't think I'll get the Delta though. The PIII heat will prbably be handled nicely by a quiter fan.

 

[Tambo]

yeah, i noticed the size diff too. i tried to figure out where they cut corners but i couldn't. i doubt they could've made the design that much more efficient for the ab so as to have the same performance as the 330 g model, so i'm guessing the 330 is the one most of us here would want. besides, 330g is a baby compared to a lot of stuff out there. now there's a new hsf in my mind... the ocz gladiator. from what i've heard, lapped with a delta and using quicksilver/arctic silver2 , it can get near swifty temps. sure, the delta is a ***** but with the price of that and the performance i think i'll like it. i've read that it has an excellent clip and at 380 g, it shouldn't be too brutal for a quick car trip if the case is handled carefully. any opinions on this?

 

[Slake]

Different reviews I've read on the SK6 have the performance placed near Swiftech 462a with one claiming it beat it. What's the price on the OCZ gladiator?

 

[Hoot]

Slake (Jun 21, 2001 12:47 a.m.):
Different reviews I've read on the SK6 have the performance placed near Swiftech 462a with one claiming it beat it. What's the price on the OCZ gladiator?

It may come close or beat the MC-462 with the weaker fan, but with the Delta FFB fan, the MC-462A is still the king. The SK-6 does look very nice all the same. I believe the OCZ Gladiator goes for $29.95.

Hoot

 

[Tambo]

yeah, the gladiator goes for 30 with the default fan, but according to what i've read, it's almost as loud as the delta and for the extra 5 bux, the delta does make a good diff. with the delta it's 35, so here are the prices i've figured out...
$35 for glad + $5 for quicksilver + ~$8 for s&h= around $48
$46 for sk6 + $8.50 for as2 + $5 s&h = $59.50
to both of those, i'm figuring in about $5 for a 3 to 4 pin connector shipped.

 

[Hoot]

I realize we all have to live within our means. But to put your HSF purchase into perspective. Consider it an investment that will outlast several CPU upgrades. The extra $10 for the SK-6 is money well spent. Also, the extra $3.00 for some AS2 as opposed to Quick Silver is also money well spent. AS performance is one of the most well researched and documented cooling enhancements available. It is not a miracle product, but a solid performer.

Hoot

 

[Tambo]

knew that was comin... i already said in the beginning of the post that the 60 or so bux for the sk6 isn't that much of a big deal for me. no matter what hsf i get, i intend for it to be a very solid purchase, otherwise i'd stick w/ my volcano 2. the thing is, i've heard that the clip on the sk6 is crap, so if i purchase something that's supposed to last for the next few cpus and it screws up THIS cpu right off the bat, i'd deem that as a bad investment. from what i've read, the lapped glad w/ delta is about on par w/ the sk6 w/ delta and while i can save the extra money and get a better clip, i think that's only logical to do. i have read up on quicksilver everywhere possible. although the resources are few and far between, they all show that they're one in the same. in fact, one guy claims a guy from ocz let him know that they had a chemist make an exact copy of as2, which i wouldn't doubt judging by the similarities. while i definitely don't think this is ethical, i don't think anyone can say it's not on par w/ as2. if i order from ocz, it only makes sense to me to get quicksilver, as it's 3 or so bucks cheaper right off the bat, plus, if i were to order the hsf from ocz and the thermal compound elsewhere, that'd be an extra 4 or 5 bux shipping from that other place for something i could've had included in the other order. hope this clarifies stuff a bit, but thanks for the post.

mark

Hoot (Jun 21, 2001 08:18 a.m.):
I realize we all have to live within our means. But to put your HSF purchase into perspective. Consider it an investment that will outlast several CPU upgrades. The extra $10 for the SK-6 is money well spent. Also, the extra $3.00 for some AS2 as opposed to Quick Silver is also money well spent. AS performance is one of the most well researched and documented cooling enhancements available. It is not a miracle product, but a solid performer.

Hoot

 

[Hoot]

Okay on the Quick Silver. Since they are the same, by all means save some dough on the shipping. As far as the clip issue with the SK-6, I personally hate all clip retainers. I don't like any of them as I remove and install my HSFs quite frequently during experimentation and every time, it's like defusing a bomb. If you don't think you will be installing and removing the HSF very often, I wouldn't worry about it. They biggest factor dealing with clips is whether you want to de-populate your mobo and remove it from the case every time you remove or install the HSF. I don't care to do that as it would slow down my experimentation process intolerably. If you are willing to do that and don't do it often, you will probably beat the odds. The point of this rambling is that I would not let a poor clip design deter me from taking advantage of an otherwise good HSF design. Good Luck with whichever HSF you wind up going with and do let us know how you make out.

Hoot

 

[Slake]

Hoot (Jun 21, 2001 07:19 a.m.):

Slake (Jun 21, 2001 12:47 a.m.):
Different reviews I've read on the SK6 have the performance placed near Swiftech 462a with one claiming it beat it. What's the price on the OCZ gladiator?

It may come close or beat the MC-462 with the weaker fan, but with the Delta FFB fan, the MC-462A is still the king. The SK-6 does look very nice all the same. I believe the OCZ Gladiator goes for $29.95.

Hoot

Thanx Hoot. Your'e "Hoot Chute" and an SK6 would be the last word in air cooling IMHO.

 

[Plat]

Tambo

** SOLD **

I ended up selling these off a post in the FS / FT forum at anandtechs.

I have both the SK6 and the Gladiator. the Gladiator even has the Silicon trick done on it w/ a Delta fan not the Top fan. plus i modified one of the clips for the SK6 and have a 4800 rpm ava fan on it (the 4800 rpm fan is one that i added, this will include the 36cfm fan that came w/ it. it also has clips for the delta fan if you prefer that. but u'd have to buy it separately.

point is i'm willing to sell you both for $65, shipped.

let me know what you think.

Oh btw, Overclockers.com has the SK6 as being the top HS if noise isn't an issue. check Link

email me at [email protected]

 

[Tambo]

well, i really do appreciate the offer, and i'd gladly take you up on it except that being as i'm 16, all my monetary descisions go thru my parents first. they're not the most trusting of people so i doubt that would fly, but again, thanks for the offer. also, i hadn't seen that review. that's a really good one and it answered one of my long time questions, finally. guess that's the final word on that, unless someone would like to argue with them, heh. thanks again.

mark

Plat (Jun 27, 2001 03:08 a.m.):
Tambo

I have both the SK6 and the Gladiator. the Gladiator even has the Silicon trick done on it w/ a Delta fan not the Top fan. plus i modified one of the clips for the SK6 and have a 4800 rpm ava fan on it (the 4800 rpm fan is one that i added, this will include the 36cfm fan that came w/ it. it also has clips for the delta fan if you prefer that. but u'd have to buy it separately.

point is i'm willing to sell you both for $65, shipped.

let me know what you think.

Oh btw, Overclockers.com has the SK6 as being the top HS if noise isn't an issue. check Link

email me at [email protected]

 

[Nealer]

I have an OCZ gladiator w/ the delta fan and i am pleased with the cooling. I am running at about 45C stressed with a case temp of 32C (1Ghz @ 1.05), and if i turn on the AC i can get the processor down to about 42C stressed. I would reccomend it for its combonation of performance/price. I have reapplied it 3 times (and will have to do it a 4th time to pencil my L1's) and have never had any trouble. I like the clip design MUCH better than my old SuperOrb, which was a ***** to get off, i had to take apart my whole computer. It seems to be easier to attach once it has been "broken in" since the last 3 applications have been easier than the first time. Good luck with your choice.

 

[CSaddict]

For anyone involved my glaciator is one good HSF!! I couldn't believe the temp drop. For the money its the way to go! And it came in 2 days.