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- Mar 9, 2002
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- The belly of the beast (Wales)
I¡¦m looking to build a Silent PC or as close as I can get to that ideal and have decided that a Taluatin Celeron is a good place to start. My previous desktop was my first quiet PC project and was built around a passively cooled Celeron 600 (Coppermine).
I ran the C600 at 1.3V as opposed to the default 1.5V, used Arctic Silver thermal paste and a copper Golden Orb without the fan connected. It idled at around 35C and hit about 50C under continuous full load and was perfectly stable, I used Win 2K ļ
I don¡¦t mind if the CPU only lasts a year as it¡¦s a cheap unit and easily replaced but I know I¡¦ll probably going to have to run the Taluatin Celeron 1.0A at a higher temperature due to the greater power dissipation. I¡¦m trying to gauge what a sensible idle and full load temperature I should aim for given my objective for passive cooling.
I intend trying a voltage of 1.2V which I think the Abit ST6 supports, again using Arctic Silver thermal paste and the likely candidate for a heat sink is the Zalman Flower cooler with the fan disabled. I¡¦d guess that this heatsink is more efficient than the golden orb but I¡¦m not sure how the integrated heat spreader of the Taluatin unit will effect thermal conductivity? I estimate that this combination will idle nearer 45C and hit 60C under full load. I know these units are specified for 70C so maybe I¡¦m just being a ***** and there will be no problem. But then again the thermal values for both systems will be collected with Motherboard Monitor and taken from the motherboards onboard monitoring which will probably be inaccurate so I¡¦d rather have more headroom here. BTW the Celeron 600 was housed on an Abit SL6 (815E chipset).
One other thing hit me recently which is that mobile Taluatins are rated differently for temperature operating range than the desktop equivalents. The desktops max out at 70C while the mobiles manage 100C.
Why such a large difference in max operating temperature as surely the CPUs are physically very similar? I know the mobiles are designed to use less power but how does that effect operating temperature range?
It begs the question are Intel being very conservative in defining 70C as the max temperature for desktop CPUs? My Toshiba laptop has a P3 650 and the fan only kicks in when the CPU temperature as monitored by Motherboard Monitor hits 60C.
The bottom line: How hot should I risk running a Taluatin desktop processor?
Will the CPU become unstable before being damaged or will the onboard diode automatically shut down the system before it reaches a temperature where instability occurs? I¡¦d forgotten about the auto shutdown feature. At what temperature does that kick in?
Any feedback appreciated which might seem anomalous given my aim for silence
Smiling Crow
I ran the C600 at 1.3V as opposed to the default 1.5V, used Arctic Silver thermal paste and a copper Golden Orb without the fan connected. It idled at around 35C and hit about 50C under continuous full load and was perfectly stable, I used Win 2K ļ
I don¡¦t mind if the CPU only lasts a year as it¡¦s a cheap unit and easily replaced but I know I¡¦ll probably going to have to run the Taluatin Celeron 1.0A at a higher temperature due to the greater power dissipation. I¡¦m trying to gauge what a sensible idle and full load temperature I should aim for given my objective for passive cooling.
I intend trying a voltage of 1.2V which I think the Abit ST6 supports, again using Arctic Silver thermal paste and the likely candidate for a heat sink is the Zalman Flower cooler with the fan disabled. I¡¦d guess that this heatsink is more efficient than the golden orb but I¡¦m not sure how the integrated heat spreader of the Taluatin unit will effect thermal conductivity? I estimate that this combination will idle nearer 45C and hit 60C under full load. I know these units are specified for 70C so maybe I¡¦m just being a ***** and there will be no problem. But then again the thermal values for both systems will be collected with Motherboard Monitor and taken from the motherboards onboard monitoring which will probably be inaccurate so I¡¦d rather have more headroom here. BTW the Celeron 600 was housed on an Abit SL6 (815E chipset).
One other thing hit me recently which is that mobile Taluatins are rated differently for temperature operating range than the desktop equivalents. The desktops max out at 70C while the mobiles manage 100C.
Why such a large difference in max operating temperature as surely the CPUs are physically very similar? I know the mobiles are designed to use less power but how does that effect operating temperature range?
It begs the question are Intel being very conservative in defining 70C as the max temperature for desktop CPUs? My Toshiba laptop has a P3 650 and the fan only kicks in when the CPU temperature as monitored by Motherboard Monitor hits 60C.
The bottom line: How hot should I risk running a Taluatin desktop processor?
Will the CPU become unstable before being damaged or will the onboard diode automatically shut down the system before it reaches a temperature where instability occurs? I¡¦d forgotten about the auto shutdown feature. At what temperature does that kick in?
Any feedback appreciated which might seem anomalous given my aim for silence
Smiling Crow
