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I am getting screen tearing since i upgraded my GPU from 760gtx to 970gtx

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isogamer

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Okay so i just upgraded my GPU from a Zotac 760GTX TO a EVGA 970GTX SSC edition. A pretty big GPU upgrade from the 760gtx.

Now my issue is that with the 760gtx i had Vsync turned off games like GTA V and ran with no issues what so ever. Since i upgraded my GPU to the 970gtx i am getting screen tearing, more horizontal screen tearing. BUT if i turn on vsync in GTA V then i don't get screen tearing.

Is this just because my monitor is old? Cause i do have a Asus 1080p monitor ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms, and it is somewhat old compared to my 970gtx, and was wondering if my monitor is the issue? Cause i wasn't getting this issue with my 760gtx at the time.

I am planning to upgrade my monitor in the future to a 144hz, but for now i would like this screen tearing to go away. Cause if i turn on V sync my frames are caped and i do get some frame drops in a demanding game like GTA V, and from what i seen people who do have v sync turned off for their 970GTX they are able to put almost everything on ULTRA, where i have to go a mix between High and Very High settings because of my vsync being turned on for my 970gtx
 

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This is because your card is creating more FPS than your 760. This has little to do with your monitor outside of its refresh rate.

Since you have an NVIDIA card, I would suggest using Adaptive Vsync instead of the in game Vsync. Adaptive is better below the refresh rate of your monitor and will smooth things out a bit as well as minimize input lag. ;)
 
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isogamer

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This is because your card is creating more FPS than your 760. This has little to do with your monitor outside of its refresh rate.

Since you have an NVIDIA card, I would suggest using Adaptive Vsync instead of the in game Vsync. Adaptive is better below the refresh rate of your monitor and will smooth things out a bit as well as minimize input lag. ;)

THANKS for the quick reply. Yes, so what i did so far is turned on Vsync in Nivida Control panels, picked Single Monitor performance, and 1 or two more options i turned on, and it helped out a bit. The textures are much smoother now thats for sure. But still get lag in certain parts of GTA V locations.

I think the next best option from me and from what others has told me so far is to just upgrade my monitor to 144hz.
 

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As I said enable ADAPTIVE Vsync in the NVCP and it should go away, this 'lag' you are talking about (assuming by lag you are not talkign about multiplayer/network lag and not talking input lag).
 
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As I said enable ADAPTIVE Vsync in the NVCP and it should go away, this 'lag' you are talking about (assuming by lag you are not talkign about multiplayer/network lag and not talking input lag).

Yes, so far when i enable Vsync either in game or from Nivida control panel the screen tearing goes away. The only issue i am getting now is that since i turned on Vsync either in game or from Nivida control panel (which works best for me at this point). The game is capped at 60hz, and results in stuttering or bit of low frame drops. When it goes from like 55hz to like 66ghz that back and forth is what creates that stuttering for. So far i "overclocked" my monitor by adding 6hz more in Nivida control panel, and that helps a bit against the stuttering.
 
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Let me ask again.......

Can you confirm you are enabling ADAPTIVE Vsync in the NVCP? You keep saying Vsync, but I don't hear adaptive (you can enable both regular vsync and adpative from the NVCP). Adaptive will help you on the drops because of how it works!!!

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/adaptive-vsync/technology

Sorry, i forgot to mention that YES i also turned on adaptive option for vsync in nivida control panel. It does work bit better, but i still get those stuttering frame rates in certain part of GTA V. I hope it isn't also because of updates, cause far i know the game should be updated.

Other then that i think its just my monitor not being able to catch up with my GPU and need to upgrade i guess. PC.PNG
 

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Im going to guess part of the problem then is vRAM use. The 970 only has 3.5GB worth of 'fast' vRAM. You are playing on Ultra(ish) settings. Are you using over 3.5GB of vRAM? You can check in the game settings how much its expected to use, and confirm in MSI AB how much it is actually using. Get that value below 3.5GB and I would imagine the stuttering will go away.

EDIT: The odd part is you had a 760 and it didn't do it on the same settings... was it the 4GB model you owned? Regardless, I would look at the GTA settings and see what it is projecting your vRAM use and then check AB for real use.

EDIT2: Also, change your power management mode to performance and see if that helps (one change at a time so you know what did it).
 
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wingman99

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Okay so i just upgraded my GPU from a Zotac 760GTX TO a EVGA 970GTX SSC edition. A pretty big GPU upgrade from the 760gtx.

Now my issue is that with the 760gtx i had Vsync turned off games like GTA V and ran with no issues what so ever. Since i upgraded my GPU to the 970gtx i am getting screen tearing, more horizontal screen tearing. BUT if i turn on vsync in GTA V then i don't get screen tearing.

Is this just because my monitor is old? Cause i do have a Asus 1080p monitor ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms, and it is somewhat old compared to my 970gtx, and was wondering if my monitor is the issue? Cause i wasn't getting this issue with my 760gtx at the time.

I am planning to upgrade my monitor in the future to a 144hz, but for now i would like this screen tearing to go away. Cause if i turn on V sync my frames are caped and i do get some frame drops in a demanding game like GTA V, and from what i seen people who do have v sync turned off for their 970GTX they are able to put almost everything on ULTRA, where i have to go a mix between High and Very High settings because of my vsync being turned on for my 970gtx

The reason why you have screen tearing with the GTX 970 is that it can deliver more FPS then the Refresh rate of your 60Hz monitor unlike the GTX 760. When the FPS 60 matches the 60Hz monitor that is the best it can bee, I would use adaptive v-sync to help achieve this.

When looking for a new monitor look for G-sync if you have the money for it.