I have just lost all faith in ATI

[Krusty]

anyways, I think I concluded I'll just keep the 9700pro in his system. He likely won't need the extra juice the 9800pro offers anyways.

Now I just need to get the refund for this stupid thing.

 

[johan851]

also go to ur local BB and try a card from them if it works keep it and "bring back" the newegg card....

This is called illegal. It is also unethical. Let's not be doing that. Hope I never buy a video card from you...

I think he'll be just fine with a 9700 Pro, especially if you only bought something higher for the DX9 capability.

I think it's possible that you actually got 3 dead cards in a row. Everything seems to point to it. And that would make you...yes...the unluckiest man alive.

 

[Dukemurmur]

no lol srry that was taken wrong what i mean i go to BB and get a card from them if that card works keep it from BB and the return the card from newegg TO newegg. NOT TO buy a card from BB then if it works give them back the newegg one that WOULD B WRONG!!! And i was just figureing that if u spent that much and wanted a 9800pro that u where going best of the best so i just figured that u "wern't sure" of the X800pro/xt so yeah srry bout that man....

 

[Sophisticated]

hmm i think that it is ur board 4 some reason...since u seem to have MAJOR cash just get eh x800pro or XT......also go to ur local BB and try a card from them if it works keep it and "bring back" the newegg card....

if it is his board killing these card why in the worl would he waste that much money on a x800 and kill that one to

 

[IYIENACE]

I would agree w/ others, there is either something affecting the card on startup or you have just had a string of ****** luck.
I buy loads of stuff from NewEgg and they have always been fantastic to deal with.
As for the PS I ran my system @ 3.6G w/ everything in my sig on the factory Antec 350 with zero problems.

I would seriously look elsewhere for the problem.

 

[Krusty]

So on a 350W psu, you had a 3.6Ghz processor, higher bus speed, overclocked 9800pro, audigy sound card, 3 hard drives, and an optical drive, yes? I'd say that should pretty much eliminate the possibility of an underpowered power supply.

 

[IYIENACE]

So on a 350W psu, you had a 3.6Ghz processor, higher bus speed, overclocked 9800pro, audigy sound card, 3 hard drives, and an optical drive, yes? I'd say that should pretty much eliminate the possibility of an underpowered power supply.

Yessir - that's exactly what I had. Plus a card reader and an Aerogate II and 120mm fans.

 

[Th0r]

2 things more likey to cause this problem...

Bad PSU or a Bad Motherboard...

have you tried pulling everything out by leaving everything to the barebone requirements?

Do:
Motherboard
CPU
Video card
512MB Ram
1xhard Drive
Floppy Drives

Take out:
3xHard drives
Second Video Card
Optical Drives

try all that... Maybe get hold of another PSU.. 450Watts or higher i think.. because think about it... All those rails being used can put a serious drain on everything...

 

[Sophisticated]

EXACTLY what im tryna say

 

[bdomz]

man sorry to hear about your bad luck, I've had 4 ATI cards in the last couple years and they have all run without a hitch, even the refurbished one runs perfectly.
good luck!

 

[germanjulian]

funny how people ***** and moan and dont test. after the 2nd card I would have taken it to a friends house. or tried booting the computer without the maxtor pci card (maybe they dont like each other) and only 2 hd's and no cdrom.

testing doesnt take long. writting up how poo ati is does.
I dont moan and ***** at M$ constantly just because my g/f installed some spyware by mistake. I spend at least 2 hours to 3 hours by myself working on a solution before I writte here if I have a problem.
you only rma'ed and tried another card in your dads system. thats not testing and eliminating the problem.
test it proper. I doubt that you have 3 dead cards. I mean comon they are not that fragile. I chipped a athlon xp, dropped my 9800 pro and all works

 

[Wicked Klown]

If I remember right ATI recommands at least a 400watt PSU for the card. I could be wrong but sounds like your taxing your PSU.

 

[Sophisticated]

so about that new PSU ive recommended i think im on the right track...
PC Power & Cooling 510(650w max) Deluxe will do the job!!

 

[Wicked Klown]

I'm running the 510 Deluxe with my rig. Which has 4HDDs, 2 opticals, 2 sticks ram, 2500 OCed to 2200 1.80vcore. a nice BBA 9800Pro and 11 fans. With my old TTGI 520 watt I would get random restarts and such.

 

[J2T]

If I remember right ATI recommands at least a 400watt PSU for the card. I could be wrong but sounds like your taxing your PSU.

ATI recommends at least a 300W PSU, but it still could be the problem with all of the other power hungry components.

 

[Krusty]

funny how people ***** and moan and dont test. after the 2nd card I would have taken it to a friends house. or tried booting the computer without the maxtor pci card (maybe they dont like each other) and only 2 hd's and no cdrom.

testing doesnt take long. writting up how poo ati is does.
I dont moan and ***** at M$ constantly just because my g/f installed some spyware by mistake. I spend at least 2 hours to 3 hours by myself working on a solution before I writte here if I have a problem.
you only rma'ed and tried another card in your dads system. thats not testing and eliminating the problem.
test it proper. I doubt that you have 3 dead cards. I mean comon they are not that fragile. I chipped a athlon xp, dropped my 9800 pro and all works

The matrox card was not put in the system until windows was up and running and fully updated. I had tested with a 450W psu the first week after I had built the system. I thought the psu may have been the problem so I grabbed another one at best buy. It didn't fix the problem. My friend wound up buying the spare psu off of me because he thought it was so wonderfully quiet compared to his Enermax. The OS was also installed and fully updated with only 2 of the hard drives installed. After I got the RAID array up and running, I put the other two drives in.

So, basically, The system was run with only 2 hard drives and no matrox card and was already tested with a second power supply. I really find it hard to believe that the psu is at fault when someone was able to run a rather taxing system on a 350W psu.

The only thing I can think of that may cause the problem is some random incompatibility issue with the motherboard. I'm still leaning more toward the horrible bad luck considering my friends 9800pro and this 9700pro worked fine in the system.

 

[Sophisticated]

you have more power hungry components then the person that you say wus taxing a 350w PSU.....so keep that out of it......its either your board not liking what your giving it or you do not have enough poweer plain and simple

 

[Krusty]

you have more power hungry components then the person that you say wus taxing a 350w PSU.....so keep that out of it......its either your board not liking what your giving it or you do not have enough poweer plain and simple

That guy had a 3.6Ghz processor and 3 hard drives, 2 of which were raptors. He also had a 9800pro and a sound blaster audigy. He was also running his bus speed at 240.

When this system was built, it had only 2 hard drives and no pci devices, was running at 3Ghz, and wouldn't even POST. How do I have more power hungry components?

 

[Sophisticated]

go read the power ratings to all your components and go find out....forget what they are recommending because obviously we cant go by this right now

 

[Krusty]

Well...this thing appears to be working fine in my rig. I guess this means I get the 9800pro and my dad gets to keep the 9700pro.

So the difference between the 9700pro and 9800pro either makes the motherboard hate it or the power supply just can't keep up with it. At least I know the cards aren't dead now.