I have just lost all faith in ATI

[yazz88]

You got a DOA from newegg twice, and again you bought from them? Did you ever think about ordering from somone else?

 

[t1mex]

You got a DOA from newegg twice, and again you bought from them? Did you ever think about ordering from somone else?

I don't think this is the issue at all. They replaced his card twice, and offered to reimburse for shipping. In my eyes, that would be MORE of a reason to buy from newegg again.

So Krusty, you are saying that one of the "dead" cards from this other computer works in your computer? That would seem to signal incompatibility, or possibly a bad setting in the BIOS (maybe over/under-volting, or wrong AGP bus speed.) I still find it very strange that one ATi 9800 Pro would work, and another wouldn't.

 

[Krusty]

I'm still confused about that as well. I most definately tested my friends 9800pro at the same time I tested the first 9800pro.

Perhaps it really is a power issue and this is the possible reason why:

When I was building and testing the system, I did not have 2 of the hard drives installed and I did not have the matrox card installed. When I tested the first video card, I got no display at all. When I tested my friends card, it worked fine.

So, at the time I was building it, one card didn't display and one card worked fine. When I tested the other 2 cards, they appeard to be broken in a different way. They displayed junk to the screen instead of displaying nothing at all. During this testing, I had the other 2 drives and the matrox card installed.

Soo...perhaps the first card I got actually was broken. I was testing it with less components in the computer though so my friends card worked fine. Then I put the other components in the system and tested the other 2 ATI cards that I recieved via RMA. Those were actually fully functional cards but I did not have enough power to run them so they appeared to be broken and I appeared to be angry.

 

[Tumbler 00]

Not sayin it's power-supply , try this link though.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Intresting thing is 9700p = 9800p ... 54 watts .

 

[Turd Furguson]

Just a thought. Try setting the AGP to 1 or 2x and put the 9800Pro back in. Could be that the AGP is cranky with the 9800pro when it runs at 8x.

 

[Krusty]

Not sayin it's power-supply , try this link though.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Intresting thing is 9700p = 9800p ... 54 watts .

tee hee. That thing says I use 459W.

 

[IYIENACE]

tee hee. That thing says I use 459W.

Wow mine is 448w and I was running it on the 350w? Maybe the PS upgrade was a better idea than I thought.

 

[El<(')>Maxi]

Just a thought. Try setting the AGP to 1 or 2x and put the 9800Pro back in. Could be that the AGP is cranky with the 9800pro when it runs at 8x.

Don't ever set AGP to 1X on an AGP 3.0 card. You will kill it by overvolting the AGP slot. As for the ATI mystery, it sounds to me like the Antec powersupply while rated sufficiently, might not be delivering what it is rated at. I have had 2 Antecs(True 380 & True 430), that had similar problems and were RMA'd. I won't buy Antec again.

And I'm also not sure that the 9700 draws the same wattage as the 9800 as it's core runs @ 1.5v while the 9800 runs @1.7v

 

[Runner30]

Let me add my experience.

I have R9800Pro from Sapphire.

Recently tried to install home made ramsinks.
While wiping the memory chips surface I accidentally touched one of the ceramic capacitors.
Lately I discovered that it disconnected(I got memory errors).

I was lucky not to fry my card.

I was also lucky to have a family friend who is M.Sc. EE , also having great experience with fixing TV, videos etc.

He soldered the capacitor back.

He also found 2 MORE caps that were merely holding and fixed them too.

So every time we visit them I'm bringing a cake and a fine wine ( will do that til I cover the card cost )

I don't know what it says about Sapphire but I suggest testing somehow the card before buying it.

I'm almost 100% sure I couldn't RMA it with missing parts and get a new one for it.

 

[hooah]

I also had a problem with video corrution on a 9800 pro and ATI sent me no less then 3 RMA's to try and fix the problem before I RMA'd the motherboard. Always willing to help on phone and guide me through problem solving stuff. I'd have to say A+ customer service for me from ATI. Although i've never dealth with Nvidia so I couldn't say one is better then the other.

 

[Silent Buddha]

Never had a problem with ATI or newegg. Hope you have better luck.

-Dave

 

[Alacritan]

NOT TO buy a card from BB then if it works give them back the newegg one that WOULD B WRONG!!!

"Sellin' rocks WOULD B WRONG!!!" - Tron Carter

But seriously, that's quite a clever idea. Much easier and faster than sending it back and waiting for another.

 

[computerpro3]

An Antec truepower 430 should be more than adequate, especially since the manual for the editing card recommended only a 300W psu for running the extra hard drives and the editing card.

haha no it shoudn't the antec 430 couldn't even run my system (though it is very power hungry). When I had the antec 430, I had to run two power supplies at once to be stable. You, my friend, need to get my current power supply, the pc power and cooling 510 deluxe.

 

[GV2NIX]

Not sayin it's power-supply , try this link though.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Intresting thing is 9700p = 9800p ... 54 watts .

The only thing about this is that it doesn't take into account that certain devices draw exclusively or more heavily from different rails. I suppose this is a non-issue since the Antec TruePower 450W has pretty decent maximum currents for each rail, but it's just something that I thought of. The GooPSUlator would be a better tool, but the site appears to be down. At any rate, be sure and breakdown power consumption by voltages. Every device is different and we can't really see how that site is calculating wattage.

 

[Krusty]

Here's a very interesting addition to this topic. I just happened to be cruising around newegg and clicked on the details for my fathers Soyo p4i875p dragon2 v1.0 black label motherboard and noticed a rather interesting product review:

Didn't have ANY video output at all using brand new ATI Readon 9800 pro (not even POST data). Exchanged the card for a new one, still no video. Sending mobo in for exchange.

Looks like it's actually the motherboard that hates the video card.