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Ritalin

Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2003
Location
Herzlya, Israel
Hey people!
It's holiday purchase time here so im gonna get a couple things...
the main thing im concerned about is a SATA drive in addition to my regular ATA drives.
I have 2 regular ATA drives, one is master and one is slave and one has the OS on it. Now i basically want another drive to put all my dlownloads on it since im running out of space and those drives look like they might die one day or another.
So basically assuming i just plug in the SATA drive in and partition it in windows using the tool disk manager or whatever. And then i just use it as a "storage" drive. Will it cause a problem? Is it necessary for me to install the OS on the faster drives? I mean it will be faster to boot and stuff but i just can't be bothered with formatting and creating partitions for this drive. Is it the same as making partitions for a regular PATA drive? Will the fact that SATA doesnt have the jumpers and stuff interfear with the master/slave drives. Will it be a problem that the master PATA drive wont have the OS on it?
Basically here is what the deal is:
i will have 3 HDDs:
1 60gig master PATA drive with OS and some DL files
1 60gig slave PATA drive full of DL files
(DUnno which is which but they are: http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/ata/desktop/diamondmax_plus_9/index.htm and http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,383,00.html which is better?)
1 160 (or 120)gig SATA drive (new one).

Now what i wanna do is keep a small partition for the OS and programs and basically the rest for downloads and files i wanna keep even after i format the OS drive.

Im thinking about using one of the 2 PATA drives as OS drive and the SATA as download. Then ill just use the other PATA as backup OS if ever the first one fails or as extra space if the SATA fills up.
Does any of what i said make sense?

Now to the actual choice:
i have 3 choices for 160gb SATA drives. The 3 main things im looking at are how loud it is, the warranty and the overall reliability of the hdd.
First, http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,586,00.html with only 1 year warranty for 874NIS
Dunno what to think about that drive.. not much on their website apart from the fact it's silent
Second, http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/ata/desktop/diamondmax_plus_9/index.htm with 3 years warranty for 821 NIS.
Now this one has fluid something that supposively makes it silent. It's also the cheapest. FOr more info:
http://www.maxtor.com/en/documentation/quick_specs/quickspecs_sata.pdf
http://www.maxtor.com/en/documentation/data_sheets/diamondmax_plus_9_data_sheet.pdf
Last, http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=57 with 3 years warranty for 894 NIS Most expensive and not much else...

I think im gonna get the maxtor because of the fluid bearing thingy that looks silent and the fact that it can use the regular 4 pin molex from the PSU... Opinions?

Now i was basically told a couple things that i could not verify:
1. Don't partition the hdd where your OS is... sounded like BS but couldnt get a response as to why he said that....
2. I should use the SATA drive for sure as my OS...

Now my plan was the following after a little thinking:
Step 1: Connect the SATA drive
Step 2: create 2 partitions for teh SATA drive in NTFS. probably 30gigs for the OS and whatever is left for dl space.
Step 3: Put all downloads on the big partition of the SATA drive.
Step 4: Somehow format the two small drives and install the OS on the small partition of the SATA
Step 5: DIsconnect the ATA drives and keep them for whenever ill run out of space on the SATA or for another computer or just to keep the noise down
Step 6: Only use the SATA drive and keep the 2 partitions for the OS and the DLs...
Does it make sense? Am i missing something?

What should i do?
Thx in advance!
Ritalin
 
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voodoomelon

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Joined
Oct 9, 2001
Location
Dundalk, Ireland
Ok, this is, without a doubt, the most complicated looking post in the history of these forums!:D

But I see a few simple questions behind it all.

This is what I think you should do.
It's up to you whether you should go with 120gb or 160gb, you obviously know more about the amount of space you need than anyone else.

Who ever told you not to partition the drive with your OS on it was half right IMO, simply because it complicates things, I would leave all the drives as 3 whole partitions. I would put the OS on one of the 60gigs, and leave the other 2 completely empty.

As far as I know, there are no problems running ATA and SATA drives at the same time. They have two seperate controllers, and run independently of each other, so there should be no problem there.

"For sure" isn't the most convincing arguement for putting the OS on the SATA drive. The drive may run at UP TO 150mb/s, but will not drastically increase the performance of the machine, just because the OS is on that drive. The reason I suggest putting the OS on one of the smaller drives is simply for convenience. Having all your downloads on one single 120gb or 160gb is more organised, safer and faster. And you will also have the other 60gb for more downloads if you wish.

Then again, your idea for partitioning the SATA drive would be my second option. In the end, it's completely up to you.

It's just that people tend to think that SATA drives are ludicrously fast, when in reality, bottlenecks bring them down in speed.
;)