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Intel Celeron D 330, 3200+ Newcastle, or 2500+ Barton? (It's 2003 again!)

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Freezer7Pro

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(Posting this in AMD, as I think it's mostly related to those processors)

So, I've got this junker computer that's stationed at my workbench for checking datasheets, acting as a WLAN-LAN bridge and such. It's currently got a 12,90€ Celeron D 330 (2,66GHz Prescott with 256kB cache and 533MHz FSB), which feels really rather slow when scrolling through big PDFs and viewing/resizing big pictures. Do you think there would be any performance increase by replacing it with a Socket 754 3200+ (2,2GHz Newcastle version, ADA3200AEP4AX), or a 2500+ Barton that I can push to about 2,3-2,4GHz?

Unfortunately, the 3200+ has an OEM motherboard and can't be overclocked at all, the same goes for the Celeron. A shame, knowing how well Prescotts clocked.
 

Bobnova

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The 3200+ will be best without OCs, the celeron should perform roughly like a 2500-2600+ athlon.
Now if you could OC, that celeron (especially if it's a 775) ought to OC like crazy, 3.5-3.6 at least i'd imagine, putting it a bit ahead of the 3200+ at the cost of power consumption.

The OC'd barton will probably still be behind the newcastle, but it's hard to say.
 
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Freezer7Pro

Freezer7Pro

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The 3200+ will be best without OCs, the celeron should perform roughly like a 2500-2600+ athlon.
Now if you could OC, that celeron (especially if it's a 775) ought to OC like crazy, 3.5-3.6 at least i'd imagine, putting it a bit ahead of the 3200+ at the cost of power consumption.

The OC'd barton will probably still be behind the newcastle, but it's hard to say.

The Celly is a 478, and unfortunately is locked to the OEM mobo I have, giving it absolutely no overclocking functions at all. So I guess the 3200+ is the way to go, unless there are any objections. With that one I also get an integrated graphics card, so I can finally dump this half-broken Geforce FX 5200 that crashes when you nudge the VGA connector :D
 

Bobnova

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They probably wanted the cooling to be more direct.
The main goal of modern lids is to protect the die, i believe the K6 was AMDs first flip-chip (die on top) processor, and they put a cap on it for protection.
 
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Freezer7Pro

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They probably wanted the cooling to be more direct.
The main goal of modern lids is to protect the die, i believe the K6 was AMDs first flip-chip (die on top) processor, and they put a cap on it for protection.

Perhaps. Sounds reasonable.

Anyhow, I put the 3200+ in the computer, and it's pretty much twice as fast as the 330 in Linpack. Couldn't be happier, it's far nicer to use the computer now.

Thanks for the help!
 

Bobnova

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In the great battle of P4 era CPUs, the Athlon reigns supreme :D
Glad i could help!
 

Wayward_Son

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I still have my 3700+ Sandy! Ran that thing at ~2.9 daily for about a year. Still have it sitting here, unproductively. Loved that chip. Overclocked better than my Opty 170 on the same motherboard.