Intel Core Ultra i9 285K

[BruceUSA]

I can't find i9 285K CPU anywhere other than in ebay. Seller is from Israel and I would not want to buy it from out side of the USA. Amazon only have available in stock for Ultra 7 265K for $399. I will be building a new desktop with i9 285K with MSI MEG Z890 ACE LGA 1851 motherboard and RTX4090 or RTX5080. RTX5090 seem to cost $2000+ which I don't want to spend that much for GPU. I am building this system is not for gaming but for content creation. What do you think of this combo?

Intel core ultra i9 285k CPU
MSI MEG Z890 ACE Gaming Motherboard LGA 1851
Windows 11 OS: Crucial T705 1TB PCIe Gen5 NVMe M.2- Up to 14,500 MB/s
GPU: RTX 4090 or RTX 5080 to be determine
DDR5 128GB @8200mhz or higher to be determine
Custom build hard tube water cool for the CPU (overclock in mind)
PSU: 1300W to be determine in brand
Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Full Tower – Fabric mesh, Tempered Glass, Dual System (bought it almost a yrs ago on sale, could not resist the price)


Motherboard in Amazon link below.

Amazon.com

 

[freakdiablo]

What type of content creation? Even a 4090 might be overkill and those funds can go towards extra ram and storage which may be a bigger benefit depending on exactly what you're aiming for.

 

[BruceUSA]

What type of content creation? Even a 4090 might be overkill and those funds can go towards extra ram and storage which may be a bigger benefit depending on exactly what you're aiming for.

Davinci Resolve Studio/ Vegas Pro/ Adobe Lightroom/Adobe photoshop.

 

[Woomack]

265K is not much worse. You lose only 4 E-cores and 200MHz all P-core frequency, which is easy to manually overclock (E-cores are the same). 285K may be available in 2-3 weeks. The same is in all other countries. There was only one delivery after the premiere, and all were sold before they hit the shelves.

128GB RAM definitely won't work at 8200+. Maybe if CUDIMM were at higher capacity, but I wouldn't count on seeing 8000+ at four memory slots anyway. In two slots, it's also impossible as, so far, the only 64GB modules are Microns that need a lot of luck to pass 6400MT/s. Right now, you can reach 7600MT/s on 2x48GB, but not higher capacity.

If you need more cores and higher performance, then get AMD, which is also fine with lower-frequency RAM. However, four memory slot setups will be crippled. There is a reason why barely any brand sells four memory kits, and if they do, then at ~4800-5200.

If you don't need any unique MSI features, then you can be fine with a cheaper motherboard. Something like ASRock Taichi is much cheaper, not to mention Taichi Lite. All of them overclock the same. There is only a difference in PCB layout and the number of ports and sockets.

A 1300W PSU is overkill, even if you get a 500W graphics card. New Intels (and AMD if you go this path) are ~200-220W under high load and ~+50W after OC, so it's maybe 800W tops when everything is fully loaded (and barely ever is). Anything above 1kW is a waste of money.

Even though you say this build is for "content creation", then it looks like a high-end gaming PC where many things could be cheaper without any significant difference in performance. I'm just saying that there is more of "want" than "need" ... like a hard tube water cooling

 

[BruceUSA]

265K is not much worse. You lose only 4 E-cores and 200MHz all P-core frequency, which is easy to manually overclock (E-cores are the same). 285K may be available in 2-3 weeks. The same is in all other countries. There was only one delivery after the premiere, and all were sold before they hit the shelves.

128GB RAM definitely won't work at 8200+. Maybe if CUDIMM were at higher capacity, but I wouldn't count on seeing 8000+ at four memory slots anyway. In two slots, it's also impossible as, so far, the only 64GB modules are Microns that need a lot of luck to pass 6400MT/s. Right now, you can reach 7600MT/s on 2x48GB, but not higher capacity.

If you need more cores and higher performance, then get AMD, which is also fine with lower-frequency RAM. However, four memory slot setups will be crippled. There is a reason why barely any brand sells four memory kits, and if they do, then at ~4800-5200.

If you don't need any unique MSI features, then you can be fine with a cheaper motherboard. Something like ASRock Taichi is much cheaper, not to mention Taichi Lite. All of them overclock the same. There is only a difference in PCB layout and the number of ports and sockets.

A 1300W PSU is overkill, even if you get a 500W graphics card. New Intels (and AMD if you go this path) are ~200-220W under high load and ~+50W after OC, so it's maybe 800W tops when everything is fully loaded (and barely ever is). Anything above 1kW is a waste of money.

Even though you say this build is for "content creation", then it looks like a high-end gaming PC where many things could be cheaper without any significant difference in performance. I'm just saying that there is more of "want" than "need" ... like a hard tube water cooling

I am going with Intel for igpu support to decode 10 bit 4.2.2 .H265 footage. I don't mind to pay a couple hundred more for a high end CPU, same with the motherboard. I choose this motherboard for specific features, including 10G ethernet support. 1300W PSU is overkill but I rather have powerful PSU then not having enough down the road. I am pretty sure there will be higher capacity ddr5 with 8200mhz soon, because all motherboards are coming out that supports 256GB X 4 DIMM 9300mhz . I built a hard tube cooling for my 12700K and love it. I won't go with anything else after that. I am not a high end gaming enthusiast but I am building a high end editing system for my need and want lol.

 

[EarthDog]

because all motherboards are coming out that supports 256GB X 4 DIMM 9300mhz .

I...............wouldn't hold my breath for that......no way. Like Woomack said, we won't see 256GB @ 9300MHz on Z890. I wish more vendors listed their specs like MSI so people wouldn't get confused...

• 1DPC 1R Max speed up to 9200+ MT/s
• 1DPC 2R Max speed up to 7200+ MT/s
• 2DPC 1R Max speed up to 4800+ MT/s
• 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4800+ MT/s

I also agree that 1300W PSU for a one GPU (read non-F@H) is just wasting money. You can have a powerful enough PSU 'down the road' and still not throw money out the window like this. A high quality 1KW unit will already be powerful enough for next gen graphics (500W he was talking about) and CPUs, even overclocked.

I am going with Intel for igpu support to decode 10 bit 4.2.2 .H265 footage.

Just curious, I don't know... but doesn't AMD's iGPU do this? Or is it not as good? I know AMD is better/faster at gaming, but not sure on that front.

 

[BruceUSA]

I...............wouldn't hold my breath for that......no way. Like Woomack said, we won't see 256GB @ 9300MHz on Z890. I wish more vendors listed their specs like MSI so people wouldn't get confused...


I also agree that 1300W PSU for a one GPU (read non-F@H) is just wasting money. You can have a powerful enough PSU 'down the road' and still not throw money out the window like this. A high quality 1KW unit will already be powerful enough for next gen graphics (500W he was talking about) and CPUs, even overclocked.


Just curious, I don't know... but doesn't AMD's iGPU do this? Or is it not as good? I know AMD is better/faster at gaming, but not sure on that front.

The new Intel igpu Xe2 suppose to have twice the performance increase over the last gen igpu.

 

[EarthDog]

The new Intel igpu Xe2 suppose to have twice the performance increase over the last gen igpu.

I undertand that and inferred the same thing. I'm asking if you've seen (and can link) some testing on each iGPU for your purposes.

Intel's iGPU was a potato, at least for games. Just making sure you're armed with all of the info you need to make the best choice.

 

[Woomack]

I am only wondering what the point of focusing on an iGPU and planning to get RTX4090/5090 is. Maybe I'm missing something here.

 

[Janus67]

Maybe to offload some rendering onto the iGPU? But still seems odd as I imagine that the 4090/5090 would more than cover the utilization.

 

[Woomack]

At least the last BIOS fixes iGPU+dGPU stability, as it didn't work together on some setups until a few days ago.

 

[BruceUSA]

I am only wondering what the point of focusing on an iGPU and planning to get RTX4090/5090 is. Maybe I'm missing something here.

The purpose of having an igpu for decoding 10 bit 4.2.2 hevc and a much more powerful RTX GPU for playing back video effects and video denoise etc. None of the GPUs can decode 10 bit 4.2.2, this is why igpu is important to me.

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Maybe to offload some rendering onto the iGPU? But still seems odd as I imagine that the 4090/5090 would more than cover the utilization.

no, for rendering/exporting a video file. The editing program such Vegas Pro or Davinci Resolve will set to use the dedicated GPU. The igpu is mainly use for Timeline playing back 10 bit 4.2.2 footage.

 

[BruceUSA]

I undertand that and inferred the same thing. I'm asking if you've seen (and can link) some testing on each iGPU for your purposes.

Intel's iGPU was a potato, at least for games. Just making sure you're armed with all of the info you need to make the best choice.

Base on the Xe2 specs from Intel, it is much powerful then last gen. Again, I do not care for games and I am not a gamer. Once in a while I might play Need for Speed thats pretty much it. This is for a high end editing PC.

 

[EarthDog]

Base on the Xe2 specs from Intel, it is much powerful then last gen. Again, I do not care for games and I am not a gamer. Once in a while I might play Need for Speed thats pretty much it. This is for a high end editing PC.

I know its for games. I was using that as a measuring stick as I didn't know how well it encodes.

....based on specs, you also thought 256gb of 9k ram was going to happen... so its probably ly worth making sure. Good luck!

 

[BruceUSA]

As for DDR5 Ram. I am going with this 2x24gb @ 8200mhz. See Amazon link below

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram 48GB (2x24GB) 8200MHz PC5-65600 CL38 A-DIE Desktop Memory Module Ram for 600 700 Series Chipset XMP 3.0 Ready White - FF4D548G8200HC38EDC01 https://a.co/d/cn8xssw

 

[BruceUSA]

Well, here is an update of my editing PC. Got everything, except the CPU/GPU. But at least soon I should have my new PC up running.


Intel core ultra i9 285k CPU (In Waiting list at B&H Photo)
MSI MEG Z890 ACE Gaming Motherboard LGA 1851
Windows 11 OS: Crucial T705 2TB PCIe Gen5 NVMe M.2- Up to 14,500 MB/s
Media Storage: Teamgroup MP44Q 4TB PCIe Gen 4 7400/6500 M/Bs
GPU: RTX 4090 or RTX 5080 to be determine and waiting
TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram 48GB (2x24GB) 8200MHz
Corairs Hydro X Series XC7 RGB water block
Custom build hard tube water cool for the CPU (overclock in mind)
Seasonic Vertex GX-1200W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 & PCIE 5.0 Ready
Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Full Tower – Fabric mesh, Tempered Glass, Dual System (bought it almost a yrs ago on sale, could not resist the price)

 

[Woomack]

RAM at 8200-8400 should be not much worse than 8800+. However, at 8800+ is only CUDIMM and you won't buy that in stores until around mid Dec. Also first kits will be 8400-8800 only. Kingston officially releases 8400 CUDIMM next week. They don't even have higher review samples as everything 8800+ went to motherboard manufacturers for QVL validation and as a review kit with motherboards.

Here is one screenshot with 8800@9733. If you had a CPU, then you could compare it and find out it's not so much better than 8200-8400



Here are 2x24GB Kingston Renegade LE @8400. T-Force Delta should work the same. Memory copy bandwidth is lower, but latency is lower than at 9733. This is Gear 2 vs Gear 4.

 

[BruceUSA]

Finally I received an email notification from B&H Photo about stock is available to order first come first serve. So, I quickly placed my order in. I am still waiting for the availability of the RTX 5080 or 4090 depends on price.

 

[BruceUSA]

Hi all. Got my PC put together. I downloaded Windows 11 mediacreationtool.exe place it on a USB stick . I select boot option #5 that show USB Key:UEFI SanDiskU which I believe is my USB drive. I clicked on that and save & exit. Hoping the PC would boot into the USB drive and start Windows install. But instead of that. It's boot back into the bio. Please take a look of the screen shot. Appreciate any help. Thanks

 

[Janus67]

Hi all. Got my PC put together. I downloaded Windows 11 mediacreationtool.exe place it on a USB stick . I select boot option #5 that show USB Key:UEFI SanDiskU which I believe is my USB drive. I clicked on that and save & exit. Hoping the PC would boot into the USB drive and start Windows install. But instead of that. It's boot back into the bio. Please take a look of the screen shot. Appreciate any help. Thanks

the media creation tool is run within windows to make the USB key a windows installer.