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Bboy_Jon

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Dec 2, 2003
Ok im hoping to get these parts at newegg.com for christmas, is this a good pc and price?? im also thinking about ocing it, would it work?

my parts im getting:

2 Cooler Master, Auroba SFL-U12-UB, (BLUE) Cold Cathode Fluorescence Lamp (CCFL). DC 12V Power Input. Connects up to 2 lamps.
$13.98
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2 Fan Guard/Grill, chromed, for 80mm fans
$2.98
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Raidmax Scorpio Yellow ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Side Panel Window, Model TX-668WYP Yellow
Specifications:
Material: Aluminum
Form Factor: Fits standard ATX / Xeon (PIII Core) / Pentium 4
Drive Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 4 x 3.5"
Expansion slots: Standard ATX 7 slots
USB/IO: Front 2x USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394 (see pics)
Case Fans: 2 x 80mm (rear see pics)
Power Supply: 420W
Dimensions: 8" (W) x 18.6" (D) x 20.5" (H)
$99.00
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Lite On Beige 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive, Model LTR-52327S BEIGE, Retail
Specifications:
Write Speed: 52X CD-R,32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows 95/98/NT/ME/XP/2000
Features: Innovated SMART-BURN technology
Remark: Retail box (see pictures for details)
$39.00
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2 Speeze 80mm DC Case fan,Model:FD08025S1M4.
Specification:
Compatibility: Case
Dimensions: 80x80x25 mm
Bearing Type: Sleeve
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 31.70
Max Pressure: Unknown
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Connector: 4Pin
Noise(dBA): 28.0
Special Features: ISO9002 Certified
$3.90
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MITSUMI D359M3 1.44MB 3.5INCH Floppy Disk Drive, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: 94 ms
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Quiet Operation,Enclosed Mechanism
Remark: OEM
$6.99
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WESTERN DIGITAL SPECIAL EDITION 80GB 7200RPM IDE HARD DRIVE, Model WD800JB, OEM DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 80GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: High-performance with 8MB Buffer
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Remark: OEM DRIVE ONLY
$74.00
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Kingston ValueRAM Dual Kits 184 Pin 512MB(256MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Specification
Manufacturer: Kingston
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 32M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime
$87.00
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ABIT nForce2 Ultra 400 Motherboard for Socket A AMD Processors Model "NF7-S" RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD K7 Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP-T
FSB: 266/333/400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Max 3GB DDR200/266/333,2x DIMM for Max 2GB DDR400
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 33/66/100/133 Max 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),2xIEEE1394a header,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: SoundStorm APU(Dolby 5.1) + 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0
Onboard 1394: 2 Ports by Cable(See pics)
Form Factor: ATX
$102.99
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AMD Athlon XP 2500+ "Barton", 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
$90.00
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SAPPHIRE Atlantis RADEON 9600PRO, 128MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Bulk
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: RADEON 9600PRO/400MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/600MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, PowerDVD, Driver CD
Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
$149.00
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Grand Total: $668.84 (without shipping, so with shipping it would be around $690.00-710.00)

So what do u think? is that a good pc and price? Hopefully i can use this new 52x cd burner that we bought at office depot for $4.00, and this 80 gb maxtor hard drive 7200rpm and 8mb buffer cache, that would make the total around $600

again what do u think?
thanx

im not really sure where i should post this, sorry
 

Papier

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Dec 18, 2003
Location
Houston, Texas
I think you got yourself a pretty good pc. Why, it smacks down my pc pretty easily.

But I think you can also get a dvd-rom if you're interested watching movies on your comp. Also allows you to make copies of your music and game cds easily on cd-rws (for backups of course. I don't like pirating.)

Btw, what kind of monitor are you buying for it? Or you already got one?

I also read on these forums that the newer 2500+ are locked from the factory. I haven't experienced it myself since my mobo doesn't have settings for it except for FSB change and volt settings. :( I'll see for myself when I'll buy a new mobo in the next month or so. I"m also looking into that NF7-S mobo to replace that one. Anyone has personal experience with it?

You have yourself a mighty pc and I wish you good gaming and luck. :)
 
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Bboy_Jon

Bboy_Jon

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i already have a monitor, i dont really care for watching dvds on the pc cuz i can ust watch it o a big screen, if i have to copy a cd to a cdr ill just use my other computer with a dvd rom and cd burner, or i can just make an image onto my hard drive and then burn it, or i can use this cd rom/burner from my current pc so i have 2 burners lol

i heard stuff about the 2500 being locked, i hope it isnt
 

Papier

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Location
Houston, Texas
Dang man, you got a pretty well setup. For me I would rather watch movies on my 19' inch monitor than on my cheap 27 inch tv.
 

CrashOveride

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Location
Beijing, China
I would get a larger HDD (100 bucks for 120Gb I think) and maybe the 9800SE instead of the 9600Pro. Other than taht and MAYBE better OCIng memory that does look great!

And WildMonkey And Papier:
Welcome To The Forums!:D
Introduce Yourselfs:D
 

CrashOveride

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Location
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SOME of them ( I think only some of the ones with a black PCB and L shape for the memory chips) can be softmodded to a 9800 (pro?), but you probably won't be able to do that. Still form what I undersand a 9800SE is better than a 9600 because it has 256bit somthing or other rather than 128... not too sure on why that is better :p But you can find some threads on it in video cards if you want:D
 
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Bboy_Jon

Bboy_Jon

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at newgg.com there is a 9600XT for $175.00 is that good??

everyone keeps telling me to get different ram and stuff what do i do?
 
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Bboy_Jon

Bboy_Jon

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ok ill ask why

why should i get different ram?? (plz dont say cuz the other one sucks and all that, give real reasons) lol
 

Teh

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The value ram you have is most likely not going to overclock very far. It also probably runs at average timings, if you plan on overclocking you should buy more expensive RAM such as the Mushkin PC3200/PC3500 Black lvl2 (which seems to be everybodies favorite and supposedly "guarantees" Winbond BH-5 memory modules [atleast on the PC3500]). Basically what you want in RAM are tight timings, like CAS2-5-2-2 that can do high FSB. The legendary RAM for this are the Winbond BH-5 modules which are bought by various RAM companies that do not make their own modules, and put it on their sticks. Various companies like Kingston, Corsair, Mushkin, Buffalo Technologies, TwinMOS, etc do this. The only companies that make their own RAM (to my knowledge) are Crucial and Samsung. The Winbond BH-5 modules are discontinued and are replaced by the Winbond CH-5, which is cheaper but does not overclock as well, but are still decent chips.
 
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Bboy_Jon

Bboy_Jon

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ok this is the modified setup, wat u think?

2 Cooler Master, Auroba SFL-U12-UB, (BLUE) Cold Cathode Fluorescence Lamp (CCFL). DC 12V Power Input. Connects up to 2 lamps.
$13.98
------------------------------------------------------------
2 Fan Guard/Grill, chromed, for 80mm fans
$2.98
------------------------------------------------------------
Raidmax Scorpio Yellow ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Side Panel Window, Model TX-668WYP Yellow
Specifications:
Material: Aluminum
Form Factor: Fits standard ATX / Xeon (PIII Core) / Pentium 4
Drive Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 4 x 3.5"
Expansion slots: Standard ATX 7 slots
USB/IO: Front 2x USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394 (see pics)
Case Fans: 2 x 80mm (rear see pics)
Power Supply: 420W
Dimensions: 8" (W) x 18.6" (D) x 20.5" (H)
$99.00
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Lite On Beige 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive, Model LTR-52327S BEIGE, Retail
Specifications:
Write Speed: 52X CD-R,32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows 95/98/NT/ME/XP/2000
Features: Innovated SMART-BURN technology
Remark: Retail box (see pictures for details)
$39.00
------------------------------------------------------------
2 Speeze 80mm DC Case fan,Model:FD08025S1M4.
Specification:
Compatibility: Case
Dimensions: 80x80x25 mm
Bearing Type: Sleeve
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 31.70
Max Pressure: Unknown
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Connector: 4Pin
Noise(dBA): 28.0
Special Features: ISO9002 Certified
$3.90
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MITSUMI D359M3 1.44MB 3.5INCH Floppy Disk Drive, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: 94 ms
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Quiet Operation,Enclosed Mechanism
Remark: OEM
$6.99
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WESTERN DIGITAL SPECIAL EDITION 80GB 7200RPM IDE HARD DRIVE, Model WD800JB, OEM DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 80GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: High-performance with 8MB Buffer
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Remark: OEM DRIVE ONLY
$74.00
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ABIT nForce2 Ultra 400 Motherboard for Socket A AMD Processors Model "NF7-S" RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD K7 Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP-T
FSB: 266/333/400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Max 3GB DDR200/266/333,2x DIMM for Max 2GB DDR400
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 33/66/100/133 Max 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),2xIEEE1394a header,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: SoundStorm APU(Dolby 5.1) + 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0
Onboard 1394: 2 Ports by Cable(See pics)
Form Factor: ATX
$102.99
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AMD Athlon XP 2500+ "Barton", 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
$90.00
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Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 512MB(256MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail
Specification
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-6 T1
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 32M x 64 -Bit
$115.00
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Microsoft Intelli-Mouse Explorer Version 3.0a USB/PS2 --OEM
Specifications:
Interface: USB/PS2
Number Of Buttons: 5x buttons + 1x Wheel
Optical/Ball: Optical
Wireless Technology: N/A
Features: Ergonomic Design
*Must be Purchased with Hardware!*
$26.00
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POWERCOLOR RADEON 9600XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "R96A-C3T" - RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/676MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video)+DVI connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: VGA via DVI Adapter, 3 Cables, 5 CD, Manual
Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
Retail Box
$175.00
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Total-$789.11 (with Shipping)

so what u think, i might be able to use this 4 dollar cd burner that i got from office depot (52x) and a Maxtor 80gb hd (8mb Cache) so that would reduce the price to about $670.00 or sumthin

also the with the mouse it says must be purchased with hardware, wtf does that mean? which hard ware?
 

hey560

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Mar 28, 2004
WHOA, thats like the exact setup i'm going to make. Good that its getting good reviews.
 

Camacho111

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Location
VA
hey560 said:
WHOA, thats like the exact setup i'm going to make. Good that its getting good reviews.
I only thing I have to say is about the raidmax case. Be sure to cut the rear and front fan grills. The Scorpio is pretty restrictive in terms of air flow. The rear fans are good enough to do the job. Also the PSU is not bad at all. It'll do!

Your order of 80mm fans are for the front intake? If they are I'll go with one 120mm instead of two 80mm. Lower noise and more CFM.

Damn, christmas 2003?
 

Gabkicks

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Aug 10, 2002
Location
New Jersey
I have the Shuttle AN35N Ultra Mobo, and its only 60 somethin dollars. its pretty good as long as ur not worried about features it doesnt support.