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It looks like the prices for the Ryzen 9000 series cpu's is going to be really good.

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I'm looking forward to the Ryzen 9 9900X cpu being released and heard they were supposed be cheaper then the current gen and seen this website and video.

If you look at the prices on the website in the link all the prices have a 22% VAT(Value Added Tax) added onto them as well which you need to consider,that tax only applies in Europe.

The guy in the video talks about the pricing as well at the end of the video.

All I can say is hope these chips turn out to good performer's because if they are for the prices they asking I'm pretty stoked to get my hands on one.

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9000...7000-9950x-659-9900x-499-9700x-399-9600x-309/



 
I just seen an article on the new Ryzen 9 9900X cpu and they are saying it has a 14% speed increase over the Ryzen 9 7900X with stock setting's,it also has a 20% speed increase over the 7900X with PBO enabled.

From what it looks like the new AMD CPU's are looking to be pretty good,I know some will say that the i7 14700K still beat it but if you ask me when a 20 core needs 253W and the AMD has 12 cores and use's 120W by default and 170W with PBO enabled and the 20 core barely edge's it out I'd say that's pretty good.

I find a lot of the CPU stuff to be a big **** measuring contest because most people from what I have seen don't use their CPU to the max anyway most times,I have an i9 9900K and it still blazing fast and the reason I want to upgrade is so I can use the Intel Arc A770 card and I would have just upgraded my current system but the Intel Arc stuff will only Hyper Encode with a 10th gen and above Intel CPU.

So I decided to switch teams this go around and see if the grass is greener on the other side,I know a friend of mine told me why not use a 4090 card and I told him I would if he purchased it for me at 2988.00 Canadian plus pay for the extra power it will consume and well needless to say he didn't order me a new 4090 card,the A770 is only 450 to 470 Cad and I'm not a gamer and it's the fastest at Encoding Video right now as well.

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-99...ench-r23-leaks-20-uplift-over-7900x-with-pbo/
 
wade7575 said:
From what it looks like the new AMD CPU's are looking to be pretty good,I know some will say that the i7 14700K still beat it but if you ask me when a 20 core needs 253W and the AMD has 12 cores and use's 120W by default and 170W with PBO enabled and the 20 core barely edge's it out I'd say that's pretty good.
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You're comparing a yet to be released CPU to, depending on how you count it, 2 to 3 years old microarchitecture. The real competition is Arrow Lake later this year. AMD only has a short window to compare against the outgoing Intel generation.
 
I understand all of that I'm just looking forward to the new AMD stuff coming out,plus I'm happy with my i9 9900K CPU and that only reason I want to upgrade is mainly because I need a 10th gen Intel CPU to use the Arc cards to get the max benefit out of them,I don't think I would go with a new Intel either mainly because I'm sick of their stuff running hotter and consuming a lot of power.

I understand that AMD has the advantage in power consumption because they adopted using smaller nanometer tech before Intel or figured it out sooner,if the Ryzen 9 9900X is faster then my i9 9900K which is still blazing fast that's a win win for me,I'm sure others will complain that the new Intel Arrow Lake is faster and yet for some reason not even use it's full power anywhere close to the time.

It's like the stupid ssd crap that's going on right now,sure the gen 5's do 14000mb a second and I do find it really impressive but unless your a photographer like my one friend that shoots with a Nikon Z9 and high end Cannon and take 500 to 1K worth of picture's that are sometimes 100 to 150mb in Raw and you want to transfer them or transfer the really large 8K video files they produce.

If you ask me and I could be wrong but 4400mb's write speeds for most people are more then enough and I haven't seen where anymore is needed,I know my friend got a Sabrent Rocket 4 because he wanted to get the most life from his external storage because their TBW numbers in the Rocket 4 are very high and he put's a lot of data on his ssd's in a year,I understand that what may work for one whether it be a CPU or ssd your talking about may not work for the next guy.

I'd rather see Intel to try and get their CPU's to stop being so power hungry and also not run as hot over trying to make a CPU that has to have more core's to keep up it just doesn't make sense and I'm sure some day they will get there.
 
Its a fair point that recent high end Intel desktop can be set to be really power hungry. Intel's struggles are well known. They have the designs but can't make them at their full potential until they get their fabs in line, or use TSMC in some areas as a stepping stone while they do so. I know most of us here are desktop focused, which is where Intel has been paying least attention. Mobile has had the newer tech even if they haven't overtaken AMD so far, it shows they are progressing.

BTW you're not alone in giving AMD a try. Updating from a several year old CPU will show significant improvements. I switched my main gaming system from 7980XE to 7800X3D. It was a struggle deciding what CPU to go for, but was easier when I decided this system would primarily be used for gaming and not other heavy activities. It has certainly helped with gaming load times and smooths out CPU intensive areas. However, if I had to get one CPU to do everything, I'm not sure I would have gone AMD. By taking other considerations out of the picture, I could get the average best gaming CPU currently. Outside of gaming, it still has weaknesses which I leave my old system to do separately.

Out of interest, any reason why the 9900X was chosen? IMO it sits in an awkward spot. If you're gaming focused, single CCD models will be more consistent. If you can use more cores, why not keep going to the 9950X? In theory of course, until it is released and tested. I haven't seen anything to make me think it would be any different from Zen 3 / Zen 4 in that area.
 
I don't game and I will be doing a lot of video encoding and editing as well,I was thinking of going with the 9950X but the i9 9900K I have is still more then fast enough and it's an 8 core and I'll be getting 4 more core's with the 9900X.

If the 9950X was double speed truly and not hard to cool over the 9900X and cost wasn't going to be way higher I might choose to go that route.

When you say that if you had to get a CPU to do everything that your not sure if you would have gone with AMD what do you mean by that,do you find that they don't do well with workload stuff like video encoding.
 
wade7575 said:
When you say that if you had to get a CPU to do everything that your not sure if you would have gone with AMD what do you mean by that,do you find that they don't do well with workload stuff like video encoding.
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I've mentioned before, I feel conflicted with AMD in that I want a unified core structure (single CCX) so I don't have to ever deal with weird scheduling things. Intel are not perfect either, since they have the P and E core thing too. I'd have to work out which is least worst. So for me, right now, there is no great affordable choice above 8 cores for several generations. Intel hybrid CPUs are more interesting to me only because I still have never owned done. I've had 3 generations of multi-CCX AMD CPUs. My ideal "do everything" CPU would be Xeon W, apart from the price.
 
No one cares about Geekbench except for some competitive overclockers, and recently all use it for leaks instead of any other benchmark. All already know what to expect as the same leaks were a while ago but with the 9950X CPU. I would even say that if you follow all CPU releases then you already know what to expect from each new generation. It's always anything between 10-20% improvement.
 
Most relevant thread to post in, so I'm putting it here. Zen 5 desktop CPUs have been delayed slightly. (Aug 8 or Aug 15 depending on the SKU). The article doesn't mention it, but on X, an AMD person said that there isn't a problem with the chip design that was caught, but they discovered that not all chips sent out to retailers and reviewers went through proper QA tests, so they are sending out new batches out of an abundance of caution to make sure the chips received are properly working.

www.tomshardware.com

AMD delays its Ryzen 9000 launch due to unspecified quality issue — new launch in August; chipmaker pulls back all units shipped globally for quality checks [Updated]

AMD hits the brakes on its Zen 5-powered Ryzen 9000 processors.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
 
]-[itman said:
Most relevant thread to post in, so I'm putting it here. Zen 5 desktop CPUs have been delayed slightly. (Aug 8 or Aug 15 depending on the SKU). The article doesn't mention it, but on X, an AMD person said that there isn't a problem with the chip design that was caught, but they discovered that not all chips sent out to retailers and reviewers went through proper QA tests, so they are sending out new batches out of an abundance of caution to make sure the chips received are properly working.

www.tomshardware.com

AMD delays its Ryzen 9000 launch due to unspecified quality issue — new launch in August; chipmaker pulls back all units shipped globally for quality checks [Updated]

AMD hits the brakes on its Zen 5-powered Ryzen 9000 processors.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
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Better now than later!

Cough** intel **Cough
 
At least AMD is trying to do the right thing up front and not hide it which is more than what can said for many company's today,it's like Artic when they knew they had a problem with one of their AIO's right away they contacted Steve at GamersNexus and asked him to do a video and made things right with customers right away and did a recall.

I find company's are to much like people that borrow something from you or break something of yours and then don't want to admit they did it,there's very few company's I trust anymore to do the right in most case's.
 
The main problem is that you won't build a PC based on brands everyone trusts. AMD failed multiple times in the past, and now I'm unsure if they did the right thing or just covered its mistakes, so it looks good. Actually, their marketing is getting better. Either way, it's better now than half a year after the premiere.
I am only wondering how motherboards will support new CPUs, as nearly every CPU release on existing motherboards in the past was a problem.

Tbh. I'm not in a hurry with a new CPU, which means the next cost for me. I'm only curious how RAM is scaling with new memory controllers. I may replace Intel with the new AMD for RAM reviews, but it highly depends on the results. Ryzen 7000 does not show significant differences above some memory clocks, and the X3D series is even worse than the regular one. Also, 8000 is a hard limit for most CPUs/mobos. It's like 8000 is 100% stable, and 8200 doesn't even post. It scales much better on Intel, but OC at 8200+ is hard to stabilize.
 
Woomack said:
I am only wondering how motherboards will support new CPUs, as nearly every CPU release on existing motherboards in the past was a problem.
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That could be interpreted different ways.

If you mean, how well would it work? We'll have to wait and see. I wouldn't be too surprised if there were some more updates early on than later as small adjustments are made.

If you mean, getting a system working at all, bios flashback seems to be common although I haven't looked closely at what proportion of boards support it. For my mobo, the first mention of bios support for next gen CPUs was in April. So presumably anything manufactured from that time onwards has some support out of the box. In looking this up, I see there was a bios with newer AGESA released some days ago for my mobo. Wonder if there is any benefit to having that for Zen 4, or if the main update is for Zen 5 support. Doesn't list anything else.
 
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