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Iwill kk266r sisoft memory benchmark at 170 cas2 for anyone interested

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Kriegster

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Well I finally got around to testing the memory timings on my kk-266r rev 1.2 with 256mb stick of tonicom pc166.
cpu = 1.2 ghz tbird
kk266r with iwill bios dated 3/5/01
1275 mhz cpu at 170 bus - cas2 - 4 way interleave
alu=640 fpu=740

kk266r with turkoc bios dated 2/27/01
1245 mhz cpu at 166 bus - cas2 - 4 way interleave - turbo
alu=671 fpu=783

This seems to be all my memory can muster and remain stable (or at least I hope it's stable as I just installed the turkoc bios). I even tried switching banks with the sdram but every bank can run at over 165 but none can run at 169. Now that is consistant :) Hopefully next week I will get my new cpu as this 1.2 ghz 200 bus cpu is a duck and only reaches into the high 1200's :(


UPDATE:

well you can all throw these memory scores in the garbage. While they are stable in win98, they are NOT stable in a quake3 loop run for more than a few minutes :( Sorry to get your hopes up. I am testing my pc for stability now and I will let you all know what the pc166 ram can do after I get it to run quake3 and unreal for several hours :) If anyone knows a good program to test ram stability feel free to let me know.


ANOTHER UPDATE

Seems that my bumping up the I/O has caused the instability ! Now that I have brought the I/O back to stock, the scores I posted appear to be stable. I will tweak and test and post my memory scores and settings under a NEW heading sometime tonight after I test for stability. This overclocking is alot of work!!!
 
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I just received it yesterday so I am going to RMA it back. They don't charge me a restocking fee so I will get $215 for it when they receive it. If you are looking to score a new cpu I would suggest buying a new 1.2 266 bus cpu. I have been reading that a bunch of people are getting them to 1450 or so :) I would love to run at 9 x 166 = 1494 or 8.5 x 166 = 1411 or even 8.5 x 170 = 1445 :) If you are looking for a new cpu I would definately suggest snagging one of those new athlon c's. Check the cpu section of the forums for some info :)
 

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Kriegster who did you buy from?
Hey you really thing the new 266 will get more than the 200?
Going to get another processor and looking at the 266 this time.
1.2 266 for $274 retail is this ok?

are there any differences in the 266 yet, like blue core and green core and ..........etc

sparks
 
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Kriegster

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I heard in the amd cpu forum of someone buying a 1.2 266 cpu from newegg.com this week and got it to 1450 +/-. I was on their website and they are charging 227 plus 10 for fed ex econo saver or 19 for 2 day fed ex ship. I'm going to order mine from them today :)
 

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yea called and they are 90 day warranties. AH what the hell I bought one too.
NOW if I can't do 1450 I will send it to your house with Bruno and get my money back :)

wow they list Iwill KK266-r 1.2 and state the speed fixed or something like that. maybe they mean they are newer boards without the problems.
AH hell I got one of those to check it out and will let you know.

now I just got to fit my water cooler in this little case
 
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Kriegster

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sparks (Mar 16, 2001 12:13 p.m.):
yea called and they are 90 day warranties. AH what the hell I bought one too.
NOW if I can't do 1450 I will send it to your house with Bruno and get my money back :)

wow they list Iwill KK266-r 1.2 and state the speed fixed or something like that. maybe they mean they are newer boards without the problems.
AH hell I got one of those to check it out and will let you know.

now I just got to fit my water cooler in this little case

yeah i saw that kk266 there for 125 with free shipping. sounds like a good deal. And as for your friend Bruno, you can tell him that "I can jump 1000 feet and land on a block of cement on my head yet" so there :)
 

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sparks (Mar 16, 2001 09:00 a.m.):
Kriegster who did you buy from?
Hey you really thing the new 266 will get more than the 200?
Going to get another processor and looking at the 266 this time.
1.2 266 for $274 retail is this ok?

are there any differences in the 266 yet, like blue core and green core and ..........etc

sparks
I just ordered one for $239 @
TCWO The shipping was a flat $695. Thanks to Stool. He put me onto it.
 

fallout55

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I just ordered one for $239 @
TCWO The shipping was a flat $695. Thanks to Stool. He put me onto it.

yea I was glad he posted about that place. Rare place with a lot of ratings on resellerratings and a very high rating also. LOL, but $695.00 for shipping is just a tad steep;)
 
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Kriegster

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fallout55 (Mar 16, 2001 06:11 p.m.):
I just ordered one for $239 @
TCWO The shipping was a flat $695. Thanks to Stool. He put me onto it.

yea I was glad he posted about that place. Rare place with a lot of ratings on resellerratings and a very high rating also. LOL, but $695.00 for shipping is just a tad steep;)

yeah I agree. For that price it should come with a presidential pardon :) The newegg.com store sells them for 226 and its 10 bucks for 3 day fed ex. They also have excellent reseller ratings too. I ordered already from twco and I was very satisfied with their service, although I placed 4 orders at different stores the same time and theirs arrived last (1 - 2 days after the others).
 

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I just ordered a 1.33g Tbird at axiontech for $257+$21 state sales tax. Still cheaper than any others I could find. Of course the question is when they will have the damn thing. I ordered it online sunday and this morning they said for sure it would be in wednesday when I called. Then I got an answer to an email I sent sunday about availability. It said ..
<<We do not yet have any schedule for this item yet. Please check the
availability with our sales dept. every 2 days.>>

Now I wonder if I'm getting jerked around. I'll call tomorrow and check again. If they don't have one coming in for sure, I'll go 1.2 or 1 g with the 266 fsb.
 
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whatever you do it will be the wrong thing. :) the only problem with the 1.33 is that i've heard its multiplier is locked. small problem but problem none the less. My 1.2 266 should arrive wed. so i will cross my fingers :) good luck
 

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I saw this on vr-zone..

The new TBird 1.3Ghz and 1.33Ghz has already been selling on the market and let's see how its overclockability. An overclocker Hideki has managed to overclock his TBird 1.33Ghz to over 2Ghz on a modded ASUS A7M266 at 1.95V by setting FSB at 188Mhz. It seems like the new batch of TBird 1.33Ghz is more overclockable than the current TBird 1.2Ghz where the highest reached was 1.9GHz

I also read an article on the register saying the performance on the 1.33 was so good that they thought it might have a palomino core. BTW, they were BSing at axiontech. I almost went ahead and got the 1g 266 or 1.2g 266, but got on a waiting list and bought a new HD that I needed desperately instead. IBM Deskstar 75..30g ATA 100, 7200 rpm..great improvement in performance over my old Maxtor.
 

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fallout55 (Mar 21, 2001 03:41 p.m.):
I saw this on vr-zone..

The new TBird 1.3Ghz and 1.33Ghz has already been selling on the market and let's see how its overclockability. An overclocker Hideki has managed to overclock his TBird 1.33Ghz to over 2Ghz on a modded ASUS A7M266 at 1.95V by setting FSB at 188Mhz. It seems like the new batch of TBird 1.33Ghz is more overclockable than the current TBird 1.2Ghz where the highest reached was 1.9GHz

I also read an article on the register saying the performance on the 1.33 was so good that they thought it might have a palomino core. BTW, they were BSing at axiontech. I almost went ahead and got the 1g 266 or 1.2g 266, but got on a waiting list and bought a new HD that I needed desperately instead. IBM Deskstar 75..30g ATA 100, 7200 rpm..great improvement in performance over my old Maxtor.

I'd take those reports with a couple of grains of salt...

AMD would haver to make major modifications to the manufacturing process to enable a 2 GHz core (e.g. 0.13micron process). I have heard nothing to confirm that.

The IBM is a great drive, and very good for overclocking too.

Cheers

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Oh I don't believe they changed the core..but if the performance was good enough to get some guy to make that comment, then it musta been a damn good batch. I'm teetering on the edge of buying the tonicom PC166 ram. Corsair has some PC150 cas2 just out and it just went up $10 here while the tonicom went down $9 for a 256mb stick. I will call them first to make sure they have it after the mess I just had with axiontech and their suppossed Tbird 1.33g for $257. BTW I looked on pricewatch and there are 5 pages of Tbird 1.3 cpu's. Somebodies got 'em.
 
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well i am happy with my tonicom ram. I am also interested in that corsair pc150 that i saw like 2 days after i ordered my pc166. My 256 mb stick runs stable with the new iwill bios at 8 x 170 mhz at cas2, 4 way interleave, fast ram timings (6-2-3 i think) and a sisoft memory score of 672/775. I also can run at 8.5x 165 mhz at cas 2, 4 way, and fastest memory timings (5-2-2 i think) and a sisoft score of 692/786. I bought this ram after seeing a report on someone getting it to 183mhz. Unfortunately I hit a brick wall at 172mhz (i think its my northbridge) so i cant test the full potential of this ram :) If you decide to score some of that corsair pc150 please post what it can do.
 

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hi guys i m really interested to buy the new TB1,33ghz but i need a new memory that can rock stable at 170cas 2 as you said but i need to know if the Corsair pc150 at axiontech.com is really good and the TB1.3ghz 266 mhz is it the same as 1333mhz thanks a lot for your answer my micron memory is only stable at 152cas 2 as u can see here on my TB1,[email protected]
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