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Gulp and I have been looking very closely at the new 939 Opterons. We like the high over clocking potential and the modest pricing. The question is when to buy. It seems the supply lines are not filled yet and the suppliers who do have them want a premium over what AMD is selling them for based on the pricing on AMD’s site: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_609,00.html?redir=CPT301 in thousand unit sales.
So what can we expect for pricing in the near term when the major discount suppliers get these. I am not talking about the reduction due to AMD scaling down price in the future (which is also going to happen). Just what should we be paying relative to AMD’s pricing for thousand unit purchases.
As a guide ( just a guide!), I compared AMD’s thousand unit prices to Anandtech’s pricing of Dual cores, standard core A64s and, some Opterons. For dual cores, we see:
Dual Core AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) AnandTech pricing (10/5/05) Delta
3800 354 353-365 -1 to +11
4200 482 473 -9
4400 537 526 -11
4600 704 690 -14
4800 902 884 -18
So for AMD’s latest and greatest, just introduced a few months ago, we pay ten to twenty dollars less than their quoted thousand unit price.
For standard cores, it is a little more confusing because AMD does not specify the specific core, where Anandtech does (or tries to):
AnandTech pricing (10/5/05)
Single core AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) Winchester Venice Hammer Newcastle San Diego Delta
3000 149 130 146 xxx xxx xxx -3 to -19
3200 194 131 190 xxx xxx xxx -4
3500 223 230 219 230 231 xxx -4 to+8
3700 272 xxx xxx xxx xxx 269 -4
3800 329 xxx 323 xxx 303 xxx -6 to -26
4000 375 xxx xxx 368 xxx 368 -7
(Sorry about the xxx'x, the only way to keep the columns straight!)
Here, in the more competitive market, we see pricing of about $5 less typically than the AMD volume price.
OK, so what about Opteron pricing. I compared only 200 series (because I think pricing on the 100’s is likely very confused right now) and here, in this specialty market we find:
Opterons AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) AnandTech pricing (10/5/05) Delta
240 158
242 158 163 5
244 192 163 -29
246 219 209 -10
248 327 316 -9
144 125
146 183
148 263
The low end 240 -244 are on the way out so I would not trust these values as much as the 246 and 248 which show our typical 10 discount from AMD’s list pricing.
So what price should we expect for 939 Opterons? I think $115 to 120 for 144’s, $175-180 for 146s and $255-260 for 148’s. If you can wait a few weeks, I think you will see these prices, and will not kick yourself that you threw away cash you could be spending on other neat toys. Do not pay $150+ preordering for a 144 which will be $115 in three or four weeks!
So what can we expect for pricing in the near term when the major discount suppliers get these. I am not talking about the reduction due to AMD scaling down price in the future (which is also going to happen). Just what should we be paying relative to AMD’s pricing for thousand unit purchases.
As a guide ( just a guide!), I compared AMD’s thousand unit prices to Anandtech’s pricing of Dual cores, standard core A64s and, some Opterons. For dual cores, we see:
Dual Core AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) AnandTech pricing (10/5/05) Delta
3800 354 353-365 -1 to +11
4200 482 473 -9
4400 537 526 -11
4600 704 690 -14
4800 902 884 -18
So for AMD’s latest and greatest, just introduced a few months ago, we pay ten to twenty dollars less than their quoted thousand unit price.
For standard cores, it is a little more confusing because AMD does not specify the specific core, where Anandtech does (or tries to):
AnandTech pricing (10/5/05)
Single core AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) Winchester Venice Hammer Newcastle San Diego Delta
3000 149 130 146 xxx xxx xxx -3 to -19
3200 194 131 190 xxx xxx xxx -4
3500 223 230 219 230 231 xxx -4 to+8
3700 272 xxx xxx xxx xxx 269 -4
3800 329 xxx 323 xxx 303 xxx -6 to -26
4000 375 xxx xxx 368 xxx 368 -7
(Sorry about the xxx'x, the only way to keep the columns straight!)
Here, in the more competitive market, we see pricing of about $5 less typically than the AMD volume price.
OK, so what about Opteron pricing. I compared only 200 series (because I think pricing on the 100’s is likely very confused right now) and here, in this specialty market we find:
Opterons AMD (9/28/05) in 000's) AnandTech pricing (10/5/05) Delta
240 158
242 158 163 5
244 192 163 -29
246 219 209 -10
248 327 316 -9
144 125
146 183
148 263
The low end 240 -244 are on the way out so I would not trust these values as much as the 246 and 248 which show our typical 10 discount from AMD’s list pricing.
So what price should we expect for 939 Opterons? I think $115 to 120 for 144’s, $175-180 for 146s and $255-260 for 148’s. If you can wait a few weeks, I think you will see these prices, and will not kick yourself that you threw away cash you could be spending on other neat toys. Do not pay $150+ preordering for a 144 which will be $115 in three or four weeks!
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