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Spawne32

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I bought marvel ultimate alliance and ghost recon advanced warfighter tonight along with a PNY Geforce 7600 GS 512, install went fine, cleaned the comp out, got my temps down a few degrees by getting all that dust out, updated the drivers etc etc, i install the games, and about 3-5 minutes into the game, the whole comp just freezes, everything, video, sound, etc etc. I cant seem to narrow down the problem, do i have a inncorrect setting somwhere, bad bios, drivers? Whats the deal? This card should be more then capable of handlin these two games dont you think?:bang head
 
Could it somehow be a heat related issue, or perhaps the PSU not giving enough juice to the new vid card? Bad overclock maybe?

I use to play games on one of my Xeons, which was prime stable and would crunch SETI w/o trouble, but if I played games, the system would lock up at some random interval. I dropped the O/C on the CPU's which dropped temps, and then games stopped crashing. *shrug*

Good luck w/ getting the issue resolved. :thup:
 
First thing I would do is update any and all drivers. I had the same problem a long time ago with Operation Flashpint and nothing at all would fix it. Then I instelled the VIA drivers on my old chipset and it worked without a single crash.

The PSU, I would think, should be fine. Try some other things before you start investigating the PSU.

I would check all my temps to make sure they are fine. Then I would bump my overclock down just a bit.

If those dont work, then I would start swapping out memory. Could be that once you start playing a game and the memory fills up and a bad stick could reach "crashing point". I dunno, just a thought :beer:

Keep in touch! let us know how it goes.
 
Someone over on the nvidia forums informed me that my problem appears to be my PSU causing my graphics to freeze up when loading games on this new card. he says....

The 7600GS need a psu with at least 20A on the +12v rail, check the sticker on the side of your psu to check its +12v amperage rating. I also see you have overclocked the cpu, remove the overclock if you havent already done so and test your games again. A poor quality underpowered psu will give you the sumptons you have now.
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now i just checked the side sticker and under the +12v part it has 18A and 216v under that, and im gona assume that its underpowered, its the same enlight psu listed in my rig config in my sig... i had always thought it would be enough but apparently not, now im a total noob on this power stuff with all these #'s, i gotta save cash here so what do you reccomend for a PSU to meet my needs here, and remember its gotta have that 20A on the +12v rail.
 
Well i did some work this morning on it, i switched PSU's with my bros computer, he has a 500w psu compared to my 420w, and his has dual 12v rails, but the game still froze right after the video started playing. I also tried switching my sound card to a different slot, reinstalled all drivers, and tried switching between the onboard mobo sound card and the sb live card and nothing has helped so far. I know for a fact that nothing is overheating also. I just dont know what to do now. Now i took the game over to my bros computer and installed it on his and it runs fine, now before i go out on a limb here and try the next 3 things on my mind, is there somthing else i can do that i havent thought of? cus the next 3 steps are as follows, either buy a new PSU and motherboard and install, return the graphics card for another (but for some reason i doubt its the card being bad) or format erase and reinstall 3 years worth of crap on this hard drive :/
 
I would get a can of air and take out all the parts spray all the connections and then put back all your stuff.
 
The problem appears to be connected to the new video card. Try out the video card in your brother's computer if he'll let you. If it works in his computer, then you're down to ram. Try running with just one stick.
 
I cant, im AGP hes PCI express, i just had the card replaced at best buy, got it home, put the new one in, went in the game and got farther into the game then i ever had and i thought well good, i guess it was the card, and all the sudden it just froze again lol So at least we can narrow it down to the fact that its not the card itself because this is a new card. Obviously its another part of my computer, and i dont think its software or driver related because ive done all the proper procedures for driver install etc. I dont know where to start next, RAM, mobo or PSU? Either way its gona cost me money.
 
I would try and fiddle with the ram first. If your bro has ram you can borrow I would say try that. If you have 2 sticks you can always try the whole "pull one out and try it then the other" thing. Also run Memtest on your current ram while you sleep.

Okay so its not the power supply and not the video card. And if its not the ram then lets see...

At this point I would start looking at the software level (assuming you tested the ram and its not that). Start out by doing a good cleaning of your hard drive. Uninstall things you dont use and run adaware and a virus scanner. Defrag would be good also. Once you have done all that then I would click start->run->then type "msconfig". Click the "startup" tab and then go through the list and uncheck anything that is not NECESSARY for startup. If you are unsure about one of the items on the list just do a quick google search for it and you should be able to find out what it is. Once you have cleaned things up a bit they try it and let us know!

Seems like simple stuff but you would be amazed at what can be causing problems...
 
Ok well heres what i did, i formatted and reinstalled windows, took me hours to get everything back up and running, i went into the game and finally, it was playing fine, played 2 missions, half way into the second mission the game froze, AGAIN. What does that mean? Why was i able to go so much longer this time around?
 
I bet you anything its because your overclock is just not stable. That is, unless you have already put it back at stock :)

Run memtest.

What programs did you install after you got windows back on, or did you just straight up install the game right away?

Try playing a few other games and see if you can replicate the problem.

Hmmm im stumped. Failing hard drive perhaps? I dunno, if everything else doesnt solve the problem then you can try swapping your hard drive out for your brothers and see if things work fine.
 
been playin ghost recon for two hours now, the only thing that is different is the case is off, the card isnt overheating, and none of my other parts are, the only thing i can think of is the PSU is perhaps goin bad when it gets hot?
 
OnDborder said:
Or maybe the fan on the vcard isn't operating properly?
Do you have a dmm? If so, check the voltages under load.

im confident it is, this is the second card in less then 24 hours and they both had the same experience, plus they are brand new from best buy. Needless to say the card cooling is under powered to say the least so i will be upgrading that and ill prolly spring for a new PSU just for good measure.
 
Well i did some work this morning on it, i switched PSU's with my bros computer, he has a 500w psu compared to my 420w, and his has dual 12v rails, but the game still froze right after the video started playing

If you switched it out with your bros and it still froze then I think its unlikely that the PSU is the problem. I mean, unless it just gets that hot where your computer is and it affected both.

If your fine with leaving the side panel off and it doesnt crash any more then Good deal. If you wanna really find out what the problem is then just try some of the things we have been suggesting.
 
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If you switched it out with your bros and it still froze then I think its unlikely that the PSU is the problem. I mean, unless it just gets that hot where your computer is and it affected both.

If your fine with leaving the side panel off and it doesnt crash any more then Good deal. If you wanna really find out what the problem is then just try some of the things we have been suggesting.

guys ive done everything you guys have listed and then some, since ive reformatted ive been able to play GRAW for hours on end with no crashes, yet 15 minutes into marvel ultimate alliance it still freezes, and it appears to do the same for auto assault now too, i resigned my account tonight to try it out and it froze just some 10-15 minutes in game. Now the only thing i can say about that is it is a DRASTIC improvement from what i was getting before, initially i could barely even load the menu screen on these games before it would just lockup, what all this means? i havent the faintest idea, i been hearing rumors about these AGP 7600 GS cards having some kinda freaky defects or somthing in the bios but its still unclear whether thats what im suffering from. If its any consolation to you, i spent 150 dollars the other day on a new and improved PSU with much better specs then the one i have now, and some improved cooling equipment. All of this stuff should be here by at least friday or saturday so we will see what happens when the new stuff goes in. If to no avail, i will either make an attempt to return the card to best buy and try to find somthing else online, or sell the card over ebay used take a loss and again, buy another card :(
 
Man I can only imagine how frustrating this whole situation is. Sorry If that last line seemed kinda harsh, I just read what I wrote and I probably should have worded it differently.

Like I said before, im stumped! I really hope that PSU helps out and if it doesnt, well at least you have one that you wont have to upgrade for a while :). You are probably right in that the card had some bugs. Perhaps certain engines dont work well with those cards.

You mentioned that both Auto Assault and Marvel are crashing? I didnt think about this before but it could have something to do with those games being MMORPG's. Disabling your firewall (if you have one) might do the trick.

Best of luck man, and dont forget to keep in touch! Lets get this resolved!
 
i have a thread going over on the nvidia user support forums, apparently the whole site is littered with threads just like mine about freeze up's on various different 7 series cards and guess what the #1 suggestion is that the problem is...PSU and these people go out and buy these huge PSU's and it doesnt fix the problem lol i still see no solutions up on the nvidia site yet as to what is causing all these freeze ups and shut downs.

heres my last post from a few minutes ago over there...

lol again, i just tried downloading the new beta forceware drivers because i was reading some of the fixes it has in there, one of them was for the 7600 GT, somthing about how it would freeze when reading dvd's and i realized that both the games that were crashing were dvd games. I installed the new drivers but no luck, its funny tho, after i reformatted the hard drive, im able to go so much longer in the games before the computer actually freezes up, i dont understand that in the slightest.
 
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