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Long time Evga user. What did you switch to?

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BugFreak

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I can't remember the last time i bought anything but an Evga video card but I'm thinking of buying a 50 series and can't decide on brand. I generally use Asus motherboards but the so called "Asus tax" is getting a little ridiculous so I'm looking around. What brand did you switch to and are you happy so far? I genuinely can't see a benefit of one brand over another.
 
I would check warranty terms in your area, as it's not something you buy for a year. Some brands give a 4-year warranty, but some may cause problems if you decide to change the cooling. It doesn't matter much to me, as here, I return everything to stores. User experience is different in each country, and it's changing over the years.
Generally, the top 3 mentioned by ED are almost always good (at least in high series).

I would say I'm happy about the quality of the Colorful RTX4080 that I have, but even if I recommended it (somehow, I still wouldn't), then this brand is almost impossible to buy out of Eastern Asia. I wouldn't touch any less popular brand if I had $2k+ to spend. I mean stuff like Palit, Gainward, PNY, Zotac, or even Galax.
 
I agree with MSI and I'll add PNY. They make most of nvidia's Quadro line.

Quadro cards are mostly reference designs. They would be pretty bad to fail that. Their gaming series are pretty average, if not below, when compared to ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI. Actually Palit, Gainward and PNY are from the same owner and have similar product quality. The only difference is that PNY releases products more for the US market and has server/workstation series while other brands have only gaming series.
 
Is there really that much difference between more established brands like MSI and Gigabyte? It seems it matters more if you live in places like the EU where they have pro consumer laws.
 
Well the old EVGA had different layouts so they were pretty different. No clue if the other brands are but I assume the higher end ones will be. That's something I'll have to read up on though.

Good point on the warranty. I generally watercool so that will be important.
 
I owned the following cards over the last years:
Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti
Palit Gamerock 2080s
EVGA 2080Ti FTW3
MSI Suprim 3080
ASUS TUF 4090

My two cents on this list:
Gigabyte - average thermals/noise, durable, crap software
Palit - Worst temps, crap software
EVGA - average thermals, high fan noise, WORST software
MSI - Good thermals, low fan noise, best software
ASUS - Best thermals, lowest fan noise, VERY LOUD coil whine, ok software

Just go with one of the big three - MSI/Gigabyte/ASUS. I heard ASUS are picky with their RMAs, haven't had any personal experience.
If I were to blind pick a card model, it would probably be MSI Suprim, for "high-end pointless features" AORUS Master, for "mid" ASUS TUF
 
Is there really that much difference between more established brands like MSI and Gigabyte? It seems it matters more if you live in places like the EU where they have pro consumer laws.
I guess anyone who spends so much money expects the best quality and doesn't want to risk with a brand that has a history of mediocre products or saves $3 on a cooler. If a reference design was available from all brands, like it was some years ago, then we could pick any brand and expect similar results. However, right now, the reference design pretty much comes only from Nvidia. There is something behind the final price of custom designs, and it includes everything from the product itself to added services. Nvidia FE cards often cost more than custom designs, and there is also reason for that.

Well the old EVGA had different layouts so they were pretty different. No clue if the other brands are but I assume the higher end ones will be. That's something I'll have to read up on though.

Good point on the warranty. I generally watercool so that will be important.

I'm not sure who started it, but EVGA was one of the first brands to use warranty stickers that only let support know to examine the PCB for mechanical damages. ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI introduced that later as the EU laws forced them to do that - the product couldn't have a limited warranty because of stickers that can break for various reasons. Before, there were even cases when some brands damaged stickers and said the user did that. Somehow, brands like Palit still use stickers that clearly state that you will lose the product warranty if you remove them. They even put it on some special OC series - not only a cooler, but also a switch unlocking higher capabilities had the sticker. If you wanted to push the card, your card was without a warranty.

My two cents on this list:
Gigabyte - average thermals/noise, durable, crap software
Palit - Worst temps, crap software
EVGA - average thermals, high fan noise, WORST software
MSI - Good thermals, low fan noise, best software
ASUS - Best thermals, lowest fan noise, VERY LOUD coil whine, ok software

I'm not sure if we are talking about the fan/OC software, as MSI and EVGA used to have the same software based on Riva Tuner with changed graphics, so it's weird to hear that MSI has the best software and EVGA has the worst ;)
I agree that Palit has very bad software. Users often mentioned that some options don't work. Gigabyte software was always annoying for me - a lot of stuff, not everything works, and with RGB around, they run 5+ services in the background. The same for ASUS, but ASUS soft once fully updated, at least works.
Coil whine is sadly hard to predict. Even cards with the same product number have it more or less audible. I remember some users were getting card replacements for that and later said it was much better. This is an even worse issue than with fans, and when you are unlucky, then it's louder and more annoying than fans at max speed. I couldn't stand with my old Galax HoF card, and I sold it. It was literally causing my head to hurt after 1h in 3D.
 
I guess anyone who spends so much money expects the best quality and doesn't want to risk with a brand that has a history of mediocre products or saves $3 on a cooler. If a reference design was available from all brands, like it was some years ago, then we could pick any brand and expect similar results. However, right now, the reference design pretty much comes only from Nvidia. There is something behind the final price of custom designs, and it includes everything from the product itself to added services. Nvidia FE cards often cost more than custom designs, and there is also reason for that.



I'm not sure who started it, but EVGA was one of the first brands to use warranty stickers that only let support know to examine the PCB for mechanical damages. ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI introduced that later as the EU laws forced them to do that - the product couldn't have a limited warranty because of stickers that can break for various reasons. Before, there were even cases when some brands damaged stickers and said the user did that. Somehow, brands like Palit still use stickers that clearly state that you will lose the product warranty if you remove them. They even put it on some special OC series - not only a cooler, but also a switch unlocking higher capabilities had the sticker. If you wanted to push the card, your card was without a warranty.



I'm not sure if we are talking about the fan/OC software, as MSI and EVGA used to have the same software based on Riva Tuner with changed graphics, so it's weird to hear that MSI has the best software and EVGA has the worst ;)
I agree that Palit has very bad software. Users often mentioned that some options don't work. Gigabyte software was always annoying for me - a lot of stuff, not everything works, and with RGB around, they run 5+ services in the background. The same for ASUS, but ASUS soft once fully updated, at least works.
Coil whine is sadly hard to predict. Even cards with the same product number have it more or less audible. I remember some users were getting card replacements for that and later said it was much better. This is an even worse issue than with fans, and when you are unlucky, then it's louder and more annoying than fans at max speed. I couldn't stand with my old Galax HoF card, and I sold it. It was literally causing my head to hurt after 1h in 3D.
My friend bricked his 3080 with Precision due to red lights of death.
My 2080Ti would often spin 1 fan out of 3 due to errors in Precision fan control.
And it froze A LOT more than MSI Afterburner.
I can't touch Precision and will never touch it again.
 
Zotac is pretty good. This is my second one. First was a 285 AMP, was faster than my EVGA by a fair bit. I have an Asus kicking around, but uses proprietary software, so that makes it suck.
 
My friend bricked his 3080 with Precision due to red lights of death.
My 2080Ti would often spin 1 fan out of 3 due to errors in Precision fan control.
And it froze A LOT more than MSI Afterburner.
I can't touch Precision and will never touch it again.
Sounds like an unstable system more than anything.
 
Sounds like an unstable system more than anything.
Not at all. Precision bricked 3080 FTW3s by forcing firmware updates, just google it. And my fan issues with 2080Ti FTW3 had to do with how the software interacted with the two seperate fan controllers.
I have never ever had any issues with MSI Afterburner. Very light software, intuitive UI, easy to do what you want with it. Can't say the same for Precision.

By the way, when I said MSI had good software I meant Mystic Light for RGB control, not Afterburner as any card can use AB.
 
By the way, when I said MSI had good software I meant Mystic Light for RGB control, not Afterburner as any card can use AB.

This is even worse. Mystic Light with multiple devices often acts weird. It also updates for ages, and the colors don't match the RGB palette on various devices (somehow works on ASUS soft). I have to adjust each device separately and sometimes with additional software when I prepare anything for photos. These are the same issues as with Gigabyte or Corsair soft. The whole MSI Center is like 10 separate services running in the background. I only install one or two and ignore everything else. The good thing is that you can pick what you want. ASUS installs and forces updates on everything.
 
I always preferred EVGA as well.

Currently have Gigabytes, MSI's and a big PNY 4080 Super. The Msi's are 2 fan 4070 Super's both required warranty fan replacements within a year.
 
This is even worse. Mystic Light with multiple devices often acts weird. It also updates for ages, and the colors don't match the RGB palette on various devices (somehow works on ASUS soft). I have to adjust each device separately and sometimes with additional software when I prepare anything for photos. These are the same issues as with Gigabyte or Corsair soft. The whole MSI Center is like 10 separate services running in the background. I only install one or two and ignore everything else. The good thing is that you can pick what you want. ASUS installs and forces updates on everything.
In the end all RGB software suck and cause conflict/compatibility issues. The relevant questions are: Which comes with least bloatware, which is consistent, and which doesn't need to run in the background.
PALIT - needs "full bloatware" (same Palit software that controls clocks/fan also controls RGB), must run on system startup.
ASUS - Can control RGB with only AURA SYNC (no need "full bloatware" of armory crate), RGB software can be set once and then uninstalled, settings are saved on the card (until disconnected from power source)
MSI - Can control RGB with only Mystic Light (no need "full bloatware"), RGB software can be set once and then uninstalled, settings are saved on the card (until disconnected from power source)
Gigabyte - Full bloatware (RGB Fusion can now only run through Gigabyte Control Center), don't remember if it needs to run in background or not

I had the best experience with ASUS/MSI control, better with MSI but they're both fine once you get them to work.
 
In the end all RGB software suck and cause conflict/compatibility issues. The relevant questions are: Which comes with least bloatware, which is consistent, and which doesn't need to run in the background.
PALIT - needs "full bloatware" (same Palit software that controls clocks/fan also controls RGB), must run on system startup.
ASUS - Can control RGB with only AURA SYNC (no need "full bloatware" of armory crate), RGB software can be set once and then uninstalled, settings are saved on the card (until disconnected from power source)
MSI - Can control RGB with only Mystic Light (no need "full bloatware"), RGB software can be set once and then uninstalled, settings are saved on the card (until disconnected from power source)
Gigabyte - Full bloatware (RGB Fusion can now only run through Gigabyte Control Center), don't remember if it needs to run in background or not

I had the best experience with ASUS/MSI control, better with MSI but they're both fine once you get them to work.

I just started reviewing ASRock B850/B860 motherboards, and I noticed that they are listing a third-party SignalRGB software. It supports various brands and devices. For example, it manages RGB on an ASRock mobo, Kingston or G.Skill RAM, and Kingston keyboard and mouse. It still can't handle my Colorful graphics card, but nothing does except for Colorful software. I saw mentioned Corsair devices too, and Corsair soft is really annoying.
The SignalRGB link suggests it's for ASRock, and I didn't try it on other mobo brands, but it seems free and requires registration for some additional features. I guess it's still worth checking.
 
I just started reviewing ASRock B850/B860 motherboards, and I noticed that they are listing a third-party SignalRGB software. It supports various brands and devices. For example, it manages RGB on an ASRock mobo, Kingston or G.Skill RAM, and Kingston keyboard and mouse. It still can't handle my Colorful graphics card, but nothing does except for Colorful software. I saw mentioned Corsair devices too, and Corsair soft is really annoying.
The SignalRGB link suggests it's for ASRock, and I didn't try it on other mobo brands, but it seems free and requires registration for some additional features. I guess it's still worth checking.
It would be nice if a good third party program would work with every brand and became the default for the brands. I know MS is trying to do this but any time I turned it on my system became very unstable so I leave it off.
 
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