looking at boards, any suggestions?

[footclan]

Hi,

It's time to upgrade and I've been reading and looking at new boards for 870. Previously I've gone Asus and they've been pretty solid. I have read a lot about those I225 ethernet issues and it's got me questioning about going with them again.

Thinking of pairing it with a 9700x, and fast ram but I read they may be picky.
I already have a 3080TI and 1000W psu.

The ones I'm considering were Gigabyte x870 Aorus Elite WIFI 7, MSI MAG x870 Tomahawk, Asrock x870 steel legend wifi.

I was reading about people's issues for the MSI tomahawk on their forums and it seemed pretty bad.

I'm not opposed to 670s either. I have glanced at the Asus strix x670E-F gaming.

Just want to hear what experiences people may have with any of these.

 

[Janus67]

I have yet to complete my build, but just got a 9800x3d and an x670e tomahawk board. From all the research that I did I really didn't see anything justifying needing the higher-priced x870/e boards that don't really offer anything special over the x670.

 

[Nebulous]

I have yet to complete my build, but just got a 9800x3d and an x670e tomahawk board. From all the research that I did I really didn't see anything justifying needing the higher-priced x870/e boards that don't really offer anything special over the x670.

That MSI X670e board looks mighty tasty! I want it's bigger brother with a 9900x.

 

[freeagent]

The Strix 870E-E might be my next board..

 

[infinitevalence]

I have been all in on Gigabyte boards for the last few years. They have been rock solid and with some of the best BIOS support I have seen. I am currently running 4 different AM4 Gigabyte boards.

X570 Aorus Elite
B550 Gaming X V2
A520M S2H
X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming

Here is the crazy part, all of them were used or openbox. 2 were off amazon and open box, 2 were forum buys.

 

[Woomack]

I have been all in on Gigabyte boards for the last few years. They have been rock solid and with some of the best BIOS support I have seen. I am currently running 4 different AM4 Gigabyte boards.

I'm glad you are happy with your Gigabyte mobos, but sorry, "best BIOS support" made me laugh. There have been stability issues caused by BIOS for years (not all models, but many were popular). Gigabyte ignored problems and released new PCB revisions for multiple models when they couldn't fix them with BIOS but told users it was fine. They had three chipset generations straight with RAM compatibility issues and the worst RAM support from leading mobo brands, especially the well-known Corsair+GB failure. A big part of QVLs was copied between mobos; their 2-slot mobos had 4 memory module kits marked as compatible in all 4 slots. Mobos had 30+ BIOS releases, as they couldn't fix anything properly with one version. The last AMD gen. wasn't so bad, but B650/X670 mobos had a 1.43V VDD/VDDQ limit, so they couldn't even post with 1.45V XMP/EXPO profiles.
Additionally, Gigabyte drops BIOS support faster than ASUS or MSI. Only ASRock is worse but has the smallest BIOS team (except for top and OC models). Gigabyte releases PCB 2.x+ and stops updates for earlier revisions. Look at the X800 series; there are already 2-3 PCB revisions.
The Gigabyte Intel 600/700 series mobo was pretty good. The AMD 600 series was pretty average or below average. The ITX model was so bad that Gigabyte was replacing it with the refreshed revision or giving money back. The 800 series Intel and 800 series AMD seem pretty good.

I can recommend Gigabyte X870E Pro ICE, and probably similar models like Elite as they have almost the same design and the same BIOS updates, but not anything from the last 3 generations. The mobo is pretty good - the review is on the front page.
I can also recommend everything X870/X870E from ASRock. They are all similar, and I tested five of them. There are no BIOS, stability, or compatibility issues. Some reviews are on the front page.

 

[infinitevalence]

I'm glad you are happy with your Gigabyte mobos, but sorry, "best BIOS support" made me laugh. There have been stability issues caused by BIOS for years (not all models, but many were popular). Gigabyte ignored problems and released new PCB revisions for multiple models when they couldn't fix them with BIOS but told users it was fine. They had three chipset generations straight with RAM compatibility issues and the worst RAM support from leading mobo brands, especially the well-known Corsair+GB failure. A big part of QVLs was copied between mobos; their 2-slot mobos had 4 memory module kits marked as compatible in all 4 slots. Mobos had 30+ BIOS releases, as they couldn't fix anything properly with one version. The last AMD gen. wasn't so bad, but B650/X670 mobos had a 1.43V VDD/VDDQ limit, so they couldn't even post with 1.45V XMP/EXPO profiles.
Additionally, Gigabyte drops BIOS support faster than ASUS or MSI. Only ASRock is worse but has the smallest BIOS team (except for top and OC models). Gigabyte releases PCB 2.x+ and stops updates for earlier revisions. Look at the X800 series; there are already 2-3 PCB revisions.
The Gigabyte Intel 600/700 series mobo was pretty good. The AMD 600 series was pretty average or below average. The ITX model was so bad that Gigabyte was replacing it with the refreshed revision or giving money back. The 800 series Intel and 800 series AMD seem pretty good.

I can recommend Gigabyte X870E Pro ICE, and probably similar models like Elite as they have almost the same design and the same BIOS updates, but not anything from the last 3 generations. The mobo is pretty good - the review is on the front page.
I can also recommend everything X870/X870E from ASRock. They are all similar, and I tested five of them. There are no BIOS, stability, or compatibility issues. Some reviews are on the front page.

"Some of the best bios support" not the best I have not done any of their intel boards so I cant speak to that but its really been fine for me on AMD boards because I get a new BIOS with nearly every AGESA update. I know lots of people were SOL with the remote BIOS installation flaw, and Gigabyte did a **** job of mitigating it, but it was not a big deal for me since my boards were not affected or my Operating system.

Ever MFG has had or has issues, right now I am having the least with Gigabyte, and I am 1 data point at best, or poorly anecdotal at worst.

 

[Woomack]

We can still see one thing that I dislike. Intel motherboards have better support and better-designed products in general. I don't know why manufacturers act like this. Maybe it's because Intel still has much higher sales. It's clearly visible once both sides release new chipsets. One thing from the overclockers' point of view - the new AMD generation has no OC series motherboards like ASRock OCF, ASUS Apex, GB Tachyon, or MSI Unify/Unify-X, fewer special models like ASUS Extreme or ASRock AQUA, and fewer ITX models. Manufacturers simply see they don't sell well enough, so they release more "standard" series, and even if there are more models, they more often share the PCB to cut costs. Even in the last generation, AMD OC motherboards were highly limited, like the Tachyon, which was available only in 2-3 countries. Gigabyte said they don't see any point releasing them anywhere else. The same made MSI with the last MPower, but it was for Intel CPUs.