looking for a good MMO game(please read first)

[Xymurgy]

I was inclined to say Guild Wars, but it is quite different from L2. Guild Wars is all about instances, so you won't really explore a world per se, but instead travel the world through connected missions. Furthermore, most of the landscape uses a sort of pathing system so you can't explore everything - you're limited to a 100-yard wide path that zigzags through the missions (the desert area is very wide open).

The game is different - it's easy to get to max level and high-end loot is easy to get via collectors. Most of the endgame of pve is spent hunting for elite skills so you can make you character template better, or hunting in the Fissure or Underworld for sellable items or rare crafting materials.

I can't get enough of the game. There are hundreds of ways to play each character, and 1000 ways to set up a group. It's got a solid economy, and things are always interesting.

http://bestof.ign.com/2005/pc/5.html
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[#18]

I am still looking

Anyone heard of Shaiya - Light and Darkness ?
This game seems to have good graphic designs(if in game really look the same), but I can't read Korean, so if anyone can translate or find me one English site please

http://www.shaiya.com/main/

 

[Seanohue]

DAoC is a lot of mindless PvE in the beginning but towards the higher levels, the game balances perfectly to PvE and PvP. And like da spork said, since making TOA easier, if collecting nice items is up your alley, than you'll like it. But RF Online looks cool too, and even better will be Lord of the Rings Online.

 

[#18]

lol some of you just don't get it. I have played L2 since closed beta back February 2004, and I have maxed lvl character with loads and loads of high value gears. Yet after almost 2 years of playing, I am tired of the mindless grinding type of lvling. Anything has to do with mindless grinding type of lvling, I am not interested. Why drop L2 and start fresh in a same grinding type of game for nothing? Besides L2 has the best graphic among MMO so far from what I see, and its siege system is cool. Bottomline I am not going to pick another mindless grinding camping on the same spot type of lvling game, I'd rather continue to play L2 or not playing at all. Grinding is getting to my nerve. For pvp or whatever, I am not going to grinding any more. I perfer have fun from pve too just like I had with Neverwinter Nights on the server of Aventia, actually I am more toward pve since in every game you have to spend most time lvling, thus I want to have fun during the "most time". pvp is a must to have, but nobody ever pvp more than 10% of the game play time no matter what since nobody can avoid delvl without 90%+ time on lvl, probably 95~99%.

 

[SuperFarStucker]

Well to be honest the mmo genre is fundamentally flawed in that respect. About the closest to no frills gameplay you're going to get is guild wars, but even then sinks do exist. If you don't enjoy mutual loot masturbation or priding yourself in who you can 'pwn', it is quite easy to avoid the genre entirely and not be missing out on anything at all.

See, most MMO PvP players like to 'pwn', they just don't want to work *hard* for it. It is much easier to simply invest more time than anyone else and then proceed to go around and massacre all parties involved, and that is precisely the type of person the genre caters too. It is a little bit repugnant in my mind and I don't think an MMO type setting can ever evolve into a truly competitive environment, though they can be loads of fun at certain choice moments.

 

[12am]

Hmm really the only MMO I can think of that fits most, if not all of your needs would be Saga of Ryzom. Has a huge environment, good char models, lots of variety of armor designs, lots of variety in mob models, etc.. If you have more questions about gameplay etc let me know as I played the game religiously for about 8 months before switching to eq2 and then to WoW. Here are a few screenies for you to see if it's up your alley

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[Ellet]

This is the Game I'm looking for. http://www.vanguardsoh.com/ They are in beta2 right now. Not sure when it'll come out but its made by Bard McQuaid. He was the person who Made EQ.

 

[#18]

Hmm really the only MMO I can think of that fits most, if not all of your needs would be Saga of Ryzom. Has a huge environment, good char models, lots of variety of armor designs, lots of variety in mob models, etc.. If you have more questions about gameplay etc let me know as I played the game religiously for about 8 months before switching to eq2 and then to WoW. Here are a few screenies for you to see if it's up your alley

This isn't "good char model" at all lol.

I also tried both EQ2 and WOW like I said. WOW has ugly characters, EQ2 has still not so good characters compare to L2 and SRO. While both WOW and EQ2 more or less have the same old mindless grinding/camping type of lvling, plus some boring meaningless quests.

I want exploring/advanture/trip type of lvling...which I don't think it's so hard to make. Neverwinter Nights had it...
As for MMORPG, I really wish to have a huge interesting game world that can allow ppl to keep going for ages without going through the old places, while lvling up along the exploring/advanture/trip.

On the side note, I just tried Shaiya. It turned out to be a same old mindless grinding clone Korean MMO. It's not hard to see...the first view of the game is huge amount of mobs everywhere outside town with fast respawn rate = mindless grinding game = boring... I don't get it why all these game companies are copying each other with this same old pathetic game play style...simply with a different storyline along with different graphic designs. Soon or later even the most hardcore Korean grinders will get bored of it.

 

[JU571N]

City of Heroes (or villains if you prefer) is pretty fun. There's a lot to explore and lots of ways to explore it (flying, jumping, super speed, teleportation, etc). I only got to lvl 20 or so before I got caught up in rl things to keep playing. The "grinding" is mostly door missions (instances) that take awhile to do. From what I've read the game gets a lot more interesting after lvl 20, but I can't really comment on that. There's also a lot to do outside of leveling such as player run costume contests, collecting badges, arena battles, the new supergroup base building thing, etc. Now that City of Villains is out, there's PvP zones for real PvP battles. Arena battles are fun, but get really boring fast.

As far as graphics go, it's not the best in the world, but not too bad if you have a system that can handle the higher settings. The thing I loved about the game the most is the insanely creative character creation process. There's literaly thousands of possible ways to design your character. Youy're pretty much garenteed to never see anotehr character like yours. I spent most of my time in that game just making new characters to see what kind of crazy setup I could make.

 

[secretweapon]

I would wait for SUN (Soul of the ultimate nation.) Sounds like lineage2 + Guildwars and should be a blast. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/148/gameID/199/from/features

 

[Blkout]

Guild Wars for the win, it is THE BEST MMO I've played yet. I have spent countless hours playing the PvE portion of the game over the last 4 months and its still not boring to me. I play every day at least an hour or more. It was designed a PvP game first with a PvE portion attached to it but I have lots of friends that only play the PvvE portion and love it as much as any other PvE MMO. Its the best looking RPG out there and has tons of replay value.

 

[DJCorpse]

I am curious what server you play on in L2? What lvl and class are you? Did you roll a subclass at 75 and do you have a stryder and have you been on lots of raid boss hunts and are you are in a clan that owns a clan hall and in an alliance that has a castle or two?? If so then Chronicle 4 is coming very soon so that will give you some new stuff to do! With C4 the lvl cap is upped to 78, a third class transfer occurs at lv 76 along with new skills and there are alot of other things coming like S grade gear, Hero classes and one of my favorites, fishing!!

I do understand your gripe about the grind but i have found if you are in a cool clan and/or alliance its not so bad. I would just wait for C4 to come out and give it a try and if you still hate it then it sounds like you have lots of suggestions to check out.

 

[squeekyMop]

have you guys looked in RF Online. the game is a sci fi mmo, and the graphics looks really good.

 

[#18]

I am curious what server you play on in L2? What lvl and class are you? Did you roll a subclass at 75 and do you have a stryder and have you been on lots of raid boss hunts and are you are in a clan that owns a clan hall and in an alliance that has a castle or two?? If so then Chronicle 4 is coming very soon so that will give you some new stuff to do! With C4 the lvl cap is upped to 78, a third class transfer occurs at lv 76 along with new skills and there are alot of other things coming like S grade gear, Hero classes and one of my favorites, fishing!!

I do understand your gripe about the grind but i have found if you are in a cool clan and/or alliance its not so bad. I would just wait for C4 to come out and give it a try and if you still hate it then it sounds like you have lots of suggestions to check out.

75 or 78, alliance or not, it makes no difference. Everyone has to lvl at 1% an hour buffed at max lvl, mindlessly killing the same mobs on the same spots over and over for hours every single day. I am tired of it. Fishing ingame can't be more fun than irl anyway. Grinding is just not funny at all.

 

[#18]

have you guys looked in RF Online. the game is a sci fi mmo, and the graphics looks really good.

More or less it's a copy of L2.

 

[AMDforlife]

You specifically said you weren't impressed with WoW graphics. However, if you have a good card and turn up your settings, IMO the graphics are MUCH better than those screenshots you posted. It is a bit "cartoony", but it's an RPG.

 

[#18]

You specifically said you weren't impressed with WoW graphics. However, if you have a good card and turn up your settings, IMO the graphics are MUCH better than those screenshots you posted. It is a bit "cartoony", but it's an RPG.

I turned it up, it has nothing to do with the graphic setting. It is the "natural" character designs by the company. They think it's good looking while it's really ugly.

Above is just graphic issue.

On the other hand, WOW is not a fun game anyway. The first quest I did was "kill 10 wolves, and bring back to me", the second quest was "kill 10 thieves across the river then report back to me"...and so on What's fun about that? Same old mindless grinding/quests as EQ2, L2, SRO, 100 other MMOs and their copies/clones, etc.

 

[Banyan]

it sounds like nothing floats your boat so you might want to just find a nice single player game.

what about eve-online? you don't have to mine rocks all day... you can be a bad guy and do bad things to get cash.

 

[Echo_]

imo theres very little mmorpgs were you dont have to level grind but dark age you can pvp the same time at above lvl 20 in battlegrounds(pvp for lower levels against their same levels)

dark age of camelot is a very fun game and its pvp is the best out there right now
nothing can even touch it even if its not at its prime

 

[AMDforlife]

There are actually storylines that go along with those "kill 5 wolves and report back to me". It all begins there........and then develop into a HUGE storyline, very immense. Thing is, I would bet that 90% of WoW players just look at the objectives and don't even get into the storyline. Try reading them and "living" them out, maybe it will get you.