Looking for cooling

[Blingo]

Alright so some of you may know from my other post I was saying I need a GPU.

Ok so now I'm really looking to get the Asus Phoenix 2060. Only problem is I heard it gets a little hot. It likes to get a little temp tantrum .

I have a phantom 410 case I have two crossair fans in the front
Two on the top, one of the side panel and one on the back.

I still feel that isn't cool enough.

When I had my 7970 I struggle with it my computer staying cool for a long time. Not only the GPU but the CPU also. I feel like I was changing the thermal paste and all that too often.

Any ideas for me ?
Thanks in advanced.

 

[don256us]

Looking at the card you selected, it looks to exhaust heat out the back of the case and not into the case. It also has a fairly big fan too. I would think that it would be fine as you have it. Chances are that your 7970 was venting hot air into the case thus the higher temps throughout.

 

[Blingo]

Looking at the card you selected, it looks to exhaust heat out the back of the case and not into the case. It also has a fairly big fan too. I would think that it would be fine as you have it. Chances are that your 7970 was venting hot air into the case thus the higher temps throughout.

Ok so I will try it . If I have heating problems I will ask for more help on the forum

 

[trents]

Since the video card cooler is using case air to cool, your only option in taming high temps on that card if it proves to be a problem would be to put it under water unless, somehow you could get internal case air temps down . Is your FX-8320 overclocked? And how is the CPU cooled? Air or water? Another possibility would be to tinker with the card's fan curve.

 

[Blingo]

Since the video card cooler is using case air to cool, your only option in taming high temps on that card if it proves to be a problem would be to put it under water unless, somehow you could get internal case air temps down . Is your FX-8320 overclocked? And how is the CPU cooled? Air or water? Another possibility would be to tinker with the card's fan curve.

I use air . I literally just ordered a cool master t4 i believe its called to replace that crappy fan that came with the CPU. I didn't overclock but if this fan keeps the computer really cool I will overclock. I'm a little scared to do it, but I'm going to try

 

[trents]

Concerning overclocking, what is the make and model of your motherboard? Those 8 core FX CPU draw a tremendous amount of power when overclocked and there were only a hand full of motherboards that would handle anything but a modest overclock on those CPUs. And those boards tended to be high end, expensive boards like the Asus Crosshair and Assus Sabertooth. There were also a couple of Gigabyte boards that stood up pretty good but can't remember which ones.

 

[Blingo]

Concerning overclocking, what is the make and model of your motherboard? Those 8 core FX CPU draw a tremendous amount of power when overclocked and there were only a hand full of motherboards that would handle anything but a modest overclock on those CPUs. And those boards tended to be high end, expensive boards like the Asus Crosshair and Assus Sabertooth. There were also a couple of Gigabyte boards that stood up pretty good but can't remember which ones.

I have a gigabyte ga-970a-ud3, do you think I can overclock it ?

 

[trents]

That motherboard has an 8+2 power phase component which is to your advantage. You should be able to get a decent overclock with that motherboard providing you also have good CPU cooling. Also, it would probably help if you put some small spot fans to blow on the VRM heatsinks. What are you cooling the CPU with (make and model of CPU cooler)?

 

[Blingo]

That motherboard has an 8+2 power phase component which is to your advantage. You should be able to get a decent overclock with that motherboard providing you also have good CPU cooling. Also, it would probably help if you put some small spot fans to blow on the VRM heatsinks. What are you cooling the CPU with (make and model of CPU cooler)?

I have two course air fans in the front , two on top , one on side panel and one of the back, i recently got a cool master T4 for the CPU . It will be here tomorrow.

 

[trents]

The CM T4 is good enough to give you a modest overclock. Is there room in your case to take one of the fans you are replacing and position it to blow directly on the VRM heatsink? They can be attached sometimes with zip ties to adjacent hardware components on the motherboard.

 

[Blingo]

The CM T4 is good enough to give you a modest overclock. Is there room in your case to take one of the fans you are replacing and position it to blow directly on the VRM heatsink? They can be attached sometimes with zip ties to adjacent hardware components on the motherboard.

I might have room I will try it . You mean like lay the fan on top of it ?

 

[don256us]

I might have room I will try it . You mean like lay the fan on top of it ?

You just want to get air blowing over it. How you do that depends on your case, your fan(s), the room you have in the case, your CPU cooler, etc. You'll figure it out quickly and without much thought. You might get away with pointing your CPU cooler fan to push air over the VRMs.

 

[trents]

I generally use small 50 mm fans for cooling the VRM heat sink. They seem to be about the right size and can be attached with a zip tie or a twisty tie or even a rubber band sometimes. With those small fans like that you want to get a lower rpm one that isn't a howler.

 

[MaddMutt]

I have (= Zero $$$) reUSED the fans that came on the stock AMD CPU cooler, minus the block. I have reused several to help cool the VRM/NorthBridge/Memory section's during regular OCing, A Must When OCing with a AIO/Custom Water, and OCing with Dry Ice.
Take the AMD CPU fan and set it on the NB block facing the VRM section. This will help move air over it so that it does not overheat from OCing the CPU.
IIRC the CM T4 only comes with 1 120mm fan + the brackets to connect it to the CPU block. If you can, pickup another CM 120mm fan + bracket as this will help keep the CPU cooler and also cool the VRM section at the same time .
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/?filter=8812/#!/Cooler Type=Case Fan.
In theory, you have enough fans (1 in front & side panel - bringing in air/ 2 up top & 1 at the rear - blowing out air ) that you should not have a overheating problem. If you are still using the fans that came with the system, I believe they need to be replaced. The CM fan(s) that I linked to are great. They move plenty of air and are whisper quite even on full blast.
NOW I can't give advice on fans ( Moving AIR ) WITHOUT also including DELTA Fans (https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007998 50012016 600035590). <- These babies will move 150+ CFM & 225+ CFM If you want to MOVE AIR through a AIO radiator and still - MOVE/TURN the Page in your NewsPaper ACROSS the room, Delta's are it. ->BE WARNED that they are LOUD!!! -> 45 ~ 50 DB ( https://science.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm)
---CFM is cubic feet per minute. It describes a volumetric flow of a substance. In the case of a blower or fan, it indicates how much air it can move per minute. A 125 CFM fan can remove all of the air from a box that is 5ft x 5ft x 5ft in one minute (assuming vents allow fresh air to fill the vacant space).

 

[Blingo]

Thanks guys

And yes I do really need to get another fan for the CM T4. Im looking into that right now.
But you guys have to give me like a idea on how you put a fan on top of that heatsink with zip ties and stuff.
I'm not really sure if i have the space to do it also


but i am amazed with this cool master t4. My computer is at 29-30 c when idle that is so crazy to me.
I have never had that low temp before.

I wonder if another CM Fan will get it lower. It probably will but it will be facing upwards toward the fans that exhaust so will it really help
?

 

[trents]

A push pull fan set up on a tower cooler can make a significant difference or almost none at all. It depends on a couple of things. First, how potent the push fan is. If the stock push fan produces a good hard push of air then a fan on the backside may not help much. The second variable is how close together the plates of the cooler are stacked. The closer together the plates are stacked the harder it is for the air to squeeze through. In that scenario, a push/pull fan setup can really help.

The other advantage of a push/pull setup can be noise reduction. Two slow, quiet fans in push/pull configuration can cool as well or even better than one loud push fan.

I really don't think we can help you with attaching the fan to blow on the VRM heat sink. You'll just have to use your imagination and experiment as it is unlikely that the ones helping you have that same motherboard. A lot depends on the style of the heat sink deployed in that area and the clearance. Some attachment methods won't work on some heat sinks. You might need to purchase a smaller fan just for that purpose. Like I said above, I find 50mm fans are about the right size for most applications.

 

[WhitehawkEQ]

I feel like I was changing the thermal paste and all that too often.

Why are your changing the thermal paste so much? I have a PC that I have never changed the paste on, it was built in 2010, I have not ever removed the CPU cooler.
You should never have to change the paste unless it's 1 that dries out, I use a paste that does not dry out (See here)

 

[WhitehawkEQ]

but i am amazed with this cool master t4. My computer is at 29-30 c when idle that is so crazy to me.
I have never had that low temp before.

My idle temps for my FX-8350's are in the low 20's or less, 29-30c is my CPU at full load but then again I'm using this

for my CPU cooler. It's not made any more but this Coolermaster Masterair MA610P should do just as good.

Here is a screen shot of 1 of my FX-8350's at full load.

 

[Blingo]

My idle temps for my FX-8350's are in the low 20's or less, 29-30c is my CPU at full load but then again I'm using this
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for my CPU cooler. It's not made any more but this Coolermaster Masterair MA610P should do just as good.

Here is a screen shot of 1 of my FX-8350's at full load.
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i did a clean OS install now i go to as low as 15 c. i really cant believe it.

 

[WhitehawkEQ]

i did a clean OS install now i go to as low as 15 c. i really cant believe it.

Great job, now post a screen shot with Prime95 and HWMonitor and see what your temps will be and see how much room you have to OC.