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If I successfully run Prime95 for say 12hrs ... is that enough to say that my system is stable with its new ram settings ?
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i just built a totally new sys. what's the best proggie to burnin everything at once, memory and cpu ?
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Burnt_Ram said:
I like Hot CPU Tester Pro 3 LE from www.7byte.com
For me, it has never failed to detect an unstable system. If it passes 12 hours of burnin on this program, the boxes CPU/Memory is stable.
IMHO
Paul.
So your saying when you build a new system or "overclock" for the first time and you want it to run like that is stock from here on out you can run this program for 12 hours+ and if its stable throught that you've pretty much made your CPU and RAM stock at that setting??
In other words, if itll last through that, its' gonna be stable when just lookin at porn and playing bf1942?
In other words, if itll last through that, its' gonna be stable when just lookin at porn and playing bf1942?
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Yep, that's it.
Although in my case it's usually DeusEx or UT2003, I haven't been turned out onto BF1942, yet. Sadly, I recently pulled the Civ3 cd from the safe, and have been reduced to a CIV-Crackhead (yet again). I thought I had enough willpower, HAH!! Yet another weeked decimated by Civ. The CD will need to be returned to safety!
DeusEx is almost as good of a stability test as anything else, it's real touchy about memory. QuakeIII will run fine on boxes that die under DeusEx.
Paul.
Although in my case it's usually DeusEx or UT2003, I haven't been turned out onto BF1942, yet. Sadly, I recently pulled the Civ3 cd from the safe, and have been reduced to a CIV-Crackhead (yet again). I thought I had enough willpower, HAH!! Yet another weeked decimated by Civ. The CD will need to be returned to safety!
DeusEx is almost as good of a stability test as anything else, it's real touchy about memory. QuakeIII will run fine on boxes that die under DeusEx.
Paul.
pauldriver said:
how would you determine the difference between a game that is strongly CPU dependent, memory dependent, and video card dependent?
I hear from review sites and such that a game is cpu dependent that's why the video card doesn't even affect the performance very much.
So how would you tell?
thanks.
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I'm not talking about what parts of the system DeusEx stresses, I'm talking about a system that appears to be stable, yet wont run a single application. A system that will run QuakeIII based games and just about everything else (3dmark, sandra, memtest, etc) just fine, all day long, yet DeusEx crashes on that machine.
That's where I was going with my statement that DeusEx (and Ureal based games) can be used as a stability test.
BTW, Hot CPU Tester Pro 3 also failed that overclocked configuration (quicksort failure). I finially traced to problem to memory, as the system was stable if the memory speed was lowered, and the CPU was left overclocked, whereas the opposite was not true.
I swapped to a better grade of DDR RAM, and all was good.
Paul.
That's where I was going with my statement that DeusEx (and Ureal based games) can be used as a stability test.
BTW, Hot CPU Tester Pro 3 also failed that overclocked configuration (quicksort failure). I finially traced to problem to memory, as the system was stable if the memory speed was lowered, and the CPU was left overclocked, whereas the opposite was not true.
I swapped to a better grade of DDR RAM, and all was good.
Paul.
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when you guys say you run prime95 for 12 hours or so... is that just regular mode? or do you turn on torture test ors omething else? because my box sometimes at a certain speed does normal prime stuff like nothin but then i turn on torture test and it fails right away.
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i always suggest running threw a work unit on prime ( takes a long time but its the best way to be sure an it helps the guy who wrote it)
the trture test is basicly the same as primes selftest but just looped to go till it fails
its a more condensed test
the trture test is basicly the same as primes selftest but just looped to go till it fails
its a more condensed test
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huh..... for some reason my system can run normally on prime95 all day long if i wanted without error but once i turn on self test or tortuer test it fails rigth away.....
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ummmm what do you mean what type?
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ok, ill try the primality tests.
EDIT: huh..... i cant do any three of them. my comp is stable for anything i do nomrally though.
EDIT: huh..... i cant do any three of them. my comp is stable for anything i do nomrally though.
Imo memtest86 for memory and chipset error detection is the best pre os loaded. In windows, nothing has really topped prime 95 for finding "cpu" instability.
If for example, you can run prime 95 all day but as soon as you run 3dmark2001 or play games and your system still crashes, your problem does not lie with the cpu speed. Chances are your FSB is set too high causing problems with AGP or PCI dividers being too far out of spec. If your still having problems with games / 3dmark crashing and your on an Nvidia Nforce 2 or Intel based system that locks the pci / agp your problem lies with AGP having side band addressing enabled or 8X agp enabled. These types of things wont show up with Prime95.
The Trick with benchmarking for stability is to utilize several tests in conjunction with your hardware. There really is no be all end all benchmark, because computers consist of multiple parts that cannot be stress %100 at the same time is basically what im getting at.
my 2 cents..
If for example, you can run prime 95 all day but as soon as you run 3dmark2001 or play games and your system still crashes, your problem does not lie with the cpu speed. Chances are your FSB is set too high causing problems with AGP or PCI dividers being too far out of spec. If your still having problems with games / 3dmark crashing and your on an Nvidia Nforce 2 or Intel based system that locks the pci / agp your problem lies with AGP having side band addressing enabled or 8X agp enabled. These types of things wont show up with Prime95.
The Trick with benchmarking for stability is to utilize several tests in conjunction with your hardware. There really is no be all end all benchmark, because computers consist of multiple parts that cannot be stress %100 at the same time is basically what im getting at.
my 2 cents..
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new beta of prime95 out
23.4 i belive
some new asm code for the p4
it will result in slower times in the benchmark for lower fft lengths
but faster times for larger fft ( good thing)
as far as stress testing im sure it would work out more effeshently as a stresstester on a p4 but if you dont have a p4 the older versions are just the same
23.4 i belive
some new asm code for the p4
it will result in slower times in the benchmark for lower fft lengths
but faster times for larger fft ( good thing)
as far as stress testing im sure it would work out more effeshently as a stresstester on a p4 but if you dont have a p4 the older versions are just the same
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