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illogical06

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All i can say about the 6300/6400/6600 is wow....

Anyways, with such a substantial performance increase for so cheap, i gotta upgrade. I would like any and all comments and suggestions on my possible upgrades. I have a 478 pin cpu/mobo and ddr ram and agp vid card now so.....

cpu: e6300(mad overclockable)~180
mobo:asus P5B w/o wifi(who cares?)~140
ram:1 gig g skill ddr2 6400(fairly cheap, hear it o/c's well)~155
graphics card:7900gs (maybe gt)-best midrange card~180 or 250

what do you guys think? I want that cpu in particular b/c it o/c like a madman but i need advice on the rest(especially mobo and ram) Thanks fellas :)
 
well I think you should really try to go for 2gb of RAM...you can get PC5400 for 180 bucks...and if you goto a E6400 you get a higher multiplier so you won't need the ultrafast RAM. It would probably cost about 50 more but I think would turn out to be a much better setup.
 
Ok, well. Can you recommend some good but yet cheap ram for this purpose? Also, i heard becuz the e6400/e6600 has the higher multi, a mobo with the 975 chipset is much better so that would rule out the P5B. Whats a good mobo then...P5W? others?

Also, i haven't been in the scene for awhile but ddr2 800 is not necessary? I mean i thought that if i went down to 667, then i wouldn't be at a 1:1 ratio with the fsb correct? Why would i want slower ram? I'm guessing its becuz 667 has tighter timings then 800 therefore they perform nearly the same, is that correct?

I basically want to max out the cpu's potential on air. Whatever is the best setup to get either cpu's past 3ghz lemme know. Obviously i want ram that will perform great too, whether it be 667 or 800.

Can you just explain your reasoning a tad bit more. I'm feelin what your saying somewhat, but not fully yet.
 
975 motherboards are more expensive, top out ~450fsb on average for the better ones and the performance increase is somewhat marginal (depeding on the task)

Aim for 3.4-3.6 for max stable on high end air, thats about average and gives you an idea what will be your bottlneck when overclocking.

With a E6400 Elpida IC'd (the IC's dictate how overclockable the ram is, not the mhz its sold as) ram will just get you there (450ish FSB) http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/.. and the cheaper motherboards that can get you there fairly easy would be the Biostar TForce 965PT, the Biostar TForce 965P Deluxe, the new rev. Abit AB9 and AB9-pro

the difference between the lower end and upper end 965P chipset motherboards is the southbridge, the cheaper ones have the ICH8 and the more expensive ones have the ICH8R the R is for raid... Intel Matrix raid :drool: being able to run two arrays on the same set of hardrives at the same time!!! :eek: Raid0 the fastest sectors of your drives and use redundent raid on the slower sectors :thup:

to overclock the E6300 like a madman.. you will need fast ram and a motherboard that can run the 1:1 FSB with it. Micron D9GMH IC'd ram from that list is the most reasonably price ram that can do that for you.. and the motherboards listed can also. Soo.. its either 40 extra for the E6400 or whatever the cost difference between Elpida and Micron D9GMH ram is.

Ram with other IC's that are not Micron, Elpida or Promo *from corsair* (more expensive then Elpida) will bottlneck even a E6400's top stable overclock on high end air.. for anyone that hasn't been on top of this situation.
 
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Does it matter which version of elpida ram it is? I see multiple versions. Also, can i buy 667 ram and overclock all the same as 800 if it uses the same ic's? If so can you recommend a tried and true set of 667 2 gig ram that will get me 1:1.


Edit:Hmmm, im not see'ing much of a price difference between 667 and 800...

I can't seem to find any price difference between the micron and elpida ic'd ram. They all seem to be ~250'ish for 2 gigs. Do you have a suggestion?

I don't really see the need for 2 gig's of ram for gaming but i do alot of rendering with maya and that's where i need it most. If i have to settle with one gig though i will b/c it still will destory my current rig now.

As far as a mobo. I was thinking about the abit ab9 pro becuz it has ich8r and is reasonabley priced.
 
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Get the better ram IC's if its the same price.

The list is just to help you find whats cheaper, and help you find what you need FSB wise (if your getting a E6300 and want 3.5-3.6Ghz you need Micron IC's period if that makes sence).. the same IC's will perform basicly the same when overclocked regardless of the frequecy its sold at. So I would get what was cheaper regardless of the frequency, I would only consern myself with the IC's.

The new revision of the Abit AB9 and AB9 pro is suppose to have improved signifigantly in FSB performance.. and if your intrested in the ICH8R.. its a good choice :thup:
 
Ya, imma get the D9 chips. I'm only going to get one gig of it though.

I really have no desire as of now for ICH8R, i dont even have a raid setup now. But I figured i might as well get it just in case i do become interested. I mean 150 for the ab9 pro doesnt sound bad to me.

As far as the vid card. Is there anything better then the 7900gs around its price range? I was really looking to spend about 250 on the gt but from some tests it seems the gs is only about 10% slower then the gt and its 60 bux cheaper so im opting for that instead. But i'm still up to suggestions for a mid ranged graphics card though so any comments are welcome.
 
Matrix raid is what the ICH8R offers, you should check out the storage fourm to see what all the hubub is about on that feature.

HIS ATI 1950pro or the next modle up might be of intrest.. check out the general GFX fourm for recent threads on mid-range GFX cards.. bet there's some great info in there :)
 
Yea, it seems the x1950pro is probably the way to go NOW but i wasn't planning on making this upgrade till mid to late january. I just found this article here:
http://overclockers.com/tips01071/
It would make more sense then to just wait for the g84 series card but everywhere else i look i see the g84 series will be released in late march, early april...which one is it? If its in feburary then ill just wait.

Also, i have an antec trublue 480 watt psu. Will that be a good enuff psu for a c2d and upgraded gfx card?
 
If you're planning on waiting til next year, perhaps wait till ATI comes out w/ its new DX10 card, then all the DX9 cards will drop a lot in price. :)
 
Thats sort of what im saying already spoudazo...But im willing to spend 2-3 hundred dollars on a g84 dx10 graphics card which is what hte price range is suppose to be. I'd rather get a dx10 card if they come out sometime in januaray. But i don't want to wait til april though. I'm asking when will the
g84 be released. I've read jan/feb, and also march/april....which one it is makes a huge difference to me. Does anybody know for sure?
 
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