Montech Heritage Pro Gamer

[67Elco]

Retiring the 7800X3D rig for a spell and trying something different. This case will compliment the other Heritage Pro on the other side of my monitor which is my everyday pc. Seems lately I can't catch a break on shipping with pc parts...the 9900X cpu is in FedEx hands only a hour away, but they estimate delivery for 5 additional days. The only RGB in this one will be the two top mounted exhaust fans. Likely I will use the 9070 XT mounted in the conventional manner. I picked up a couple of those RZ620 air coolers for $34 apiece...supposedly they perform nearly as well as Noctua's D15.



Screw em...I ordered another 9900X from Amazon and it will be here tomorrow. I'll send the other back to Newegg.

 

[67Elco]

Yoda says lot of fun, this one is. This cpu has not balked at anything I've thrown at it thus far. Time to install the 9070 XT and give it a whirl.

 

[67Elco]

First time I have seen the temps on the cpu this high. The video card is jammed right up against the cpu cooler...will have to do some trickery.

 

[Woomack]

You can try setting the CPU's max voltage to 1.25V and see how high it goes. I wasn't testing it on the 9000 series, but I heard it works the same as on the 7000 series, so generally, clock boost is supposed to be the same or better because of lower temperatures. I doubt it will be better than ~5.8GHz, but it still can lower temps.

 

[67Elco]

 

[67Elco]

 

[Janus67]

Man I must say, those project zero boards are pretty slick when you don't have a bunch of random cords all over the place.

 

[67Elco]

Man I must say, those project zero boards are pretty slick when you don't have a bunch of random cords all over the place.

I love them and they all have been trouble free. I'll never use another standard layout board again unless forced to.

 

[67Elco]

I'm sure it's fine, but the temps in game bother me a bit. I created a profile in bios with a 105W TDP and it tamed it nicely. There is a minor hit in benchmarks, but none that I can detect in gaming. I may just adopt that profile since this is primarily a game rig anyway. I'll have to reinstall the OS sometime today since the the only SSD I had on hand was a 1TB. The 2TB is due here today after being delayed in shipping as usual.

 

[Woomack]

I love them and they all have been trouble free. I'll never use another standard layout board again unless forced to.

The only problem is that I'm unsure if this will be a standard for much longer. Look at the new generation: there are barely any mobos, and some brands don't even have one. There are almost only cheap series meant for the mass-sale market, even though it's not a mass-sale product. This suggests that manufacturers don't think it's a product that will sell well (and it doesn't).
Another problem is with PC cases. Each brand has different standards, and some mobos simply don't have connectors in places where cases have holes.

As long as the idea is good, the market isn't prepared for it.
The same as two years ago, we could see new PSU standards, and so far, single mobos have been presented, but nothing is ready for sale.
One more idea is ASUS and PCIe connectors with additional power built into the motherboard. Not a single new-generation mobo uses this.

Again, I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but the market is far from making it a standard.

 

[67Elco]

A year ago there were only a handful of cases where the mb tray was relieved to accept these back connector mb's...right now there are hundreds to choose from. I have yet to run across a case that was designed for these mb's where the reliefs were a problem and I have used 7 different cases to date. I think ASUS jumped the shark with that PCIe connecter on their model...that involved video card manufacturers getting on board with the idea. The Phanteks Evolv 2 case I used recently was the single oddity I have run across...it accepts ATX only with back connector mb's even though the case was designed for Micro and Mini as well. Stupidity or laziness on their part. It costs literally nothing for manufacturers to relieve those mb trays. MSI has been the only mb I have used with this feature so far...the other's are just priced to ridiculously to consider.

 

[Woomack]

It's highly exaggerated to say there are hundreds of cases. Maybe if you count all those budget brands, but who would buy one for an enthusiast-grade PC? A regular user doesn't care. Most well-known brands have barely 0-3 models that support back connectors, and most are not interesting or compatible with all motherboards.
From the new-generation motherboards, I see 1 AMD and 1 Intel mobo from ASUS, and 1 Intel mobo from MSI ... and this will be all. To me, it's a dead standard. All brands had more models in the last generation when they thought people would go this way, but barely anyone buys it.

 

[EarthDog]

I recall, recently, a higher-end (read: mid-range) board with rear connections was coming out. But I haven't seen a lot of momentum nor a lot of options. There are more cases, no doubt...but we're up to what, a couple of dozen today? I'd like to see this take off too, but, I think we need higher-end models and additional chassis... which, as you said, should be easy as it's just stamping/cutting out the motherboard baffle.

 

[67Elco]

Here are some of the more mainstream cases...I'm sure there are more. If I don't like the looks of a case I won't buy it regardless of brand. I also would not balk at buying some no name case if it looked the way I wanted. https://newegg.io/e444d62

The Montech King 95 I own was not designed for these mb's, but without too much effort I was able to modify it to fit. I would only consider that again though if I really liked a particular case. If they can't keep this going forward I will likely stop building any cases with glass panels. I'm just sick to death of looking at ganky cables...drooping AIO tubes as well for that matter.

After building in and using two of these Montech Heritage cases I have to say that they are near perfect for just about any use scenario. Great layout and airflow and the ability to liquid cool if desired. Being pretty much enclosed there is no need for any bling lighting or fans...even a junky AIO would not be seen. Just about the perfect size for a desktop pc.

 

[Woomack]

Tbh. after reviewing some Montech products, I'm very surprised they released something good. I actually stopped testing their products because I had enough of the junk they were sending. However, this was about two years ago.

 

[67Elco]

These are the third model Montech cases I have used. The first was a SKY 2 which is a nice looking case a little over two years ago, but there was scant room for cable management. The King 95 for me was/is outstanding and I can find no faults...plenty of room for any graphics card and any liquid cooling scenario you can come up with.

 

[Woomack]

All cases that I had were made of thin steel, like all those budget series that flood the market. They make a cheap frame and slap glass panels or RGB on top of that, so it looks good. Their PSU was fine regarding stability under load, but the fan was noisy, and the general cable and painting quality were mediocre (it was their top 80+ Gold model). Their coolers were simply junk. AIO with noisy fans and not precise mounting. As I said, I didn't want to test more of their products because they were useless for me after tests and hard to sell. The last case I gave away for free.

There are barely any cases on the market that I can say are well-designed. Most include some stupid ideas or 10-20mm lack of space here or there for unknown reason. Like cases advertised for liquid cooling, but supporting only some standard AIOs or standard 25mm fans, but not 30mm thick. I mean brands like Corsair, Phanteks, Lian-Li, Cooler Master, Ssupd, HYTE, Deepcool, and many others. Most of their cases have repeating issues with design.

 

[67Elco]

The only Montech products I have used are those cases listed above and their case fans. If you ever get the opportunity to try a King 95 case I believe overall you would be pleased.

 

[Woomack]

The only Montech products I have used are those cases listed above and their case fans. If you ever get the opportunity to try a King 95 case I believe overall you would be pleased.

I was complaining about the HAVN 420 VGPU in the last days, so it can be hard considering it's one of the best cases around . But really, it's a top-quality case. However, the VGPU kit is too close to the CPU, so larger graphics cards interfere with some AIO coolers, not to mention air tower coolers.
I have too many cases right now, so I doubt I will get anything soon. I ended up with 2x HAVN 420 VGPU as one of them was missing some accessories, and my contacts were so kind to send a new case instead of the missing parts (which were not even that important, but I still paid for the first case, so I wanted them).

 

[67Elco]

I was complaining about the HAVN 420 VGPU in the last days, so it can be hard considering it's one of the best cases around . But really, it's a top-quality case. However, the VGPU kit is too close to the CPU, so larger graphics cards interfere with some AIO coolers, not to mention air tower coolers.
I have too many cases right now, so I doubt I will get anything soon. I ended up with 2x HAVN 420 VGPU as one of them was missing some accessories, and my contacts were so kind to send a new case instead of the missing parts (which were not even that important, but I still paid for the first case, so I wanted them).

Wow...at that price you should be satisfied lol. I understand about having too many cases/parts laying about. Atm I have on hand 11 cases, 8 motherboards, 5 graphics cards and 9 cpu's...I really need to put a cork in it for awhile.

The tardy 9900X showed up today...it's already on it's way back to California.