MSI KT3 Ultra .... Problems

[WebGod]

Well, yesterday I went out on a mission to find a KT333 board.

Success, or so I thought... I picked up a MSI KT3 Ultra without the ARU, raid stuff... (they didn't have one) $125 bucks and I was on my way...

I get to the office and prepare to tear away at my case.... I pull the mobo out of the box and it looks very nice, I pop the mobo in the case, plop my AMD XP 1800 in and my 512 DDR ram, connect everything and fire the puppy up.

I get into the BIO, make sure all is right, change the date, change the FSB speed from 100 to 133, and save the settings.

I reboot the machine, and NOTHING, the thing won't boot into the bios.... damn...

I pull the CMOS battery, reset the bios and boot up fine, but at 11.5 X 100fsb......

Next I try 134FSB, 132FSB, and finally give up with a FSB of 105... The thing won't boot with an FSB above 105...

There are no PCI/AGP bus dividers that I can see.

What the hell am I doing wrong?

Also, my board did not come with the pictured fan on the MSI DDR chip.

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?

 

[TranceBear]

Well, yesterday I went out on a mission to find a KT333 board.

Success, or so I thought... I picked up a MSI KT3 Ultra without the ARU, raid stuff... (they didn't have one) $125 bucks and I was on my way...

I get to the office and prepare to tear away at my case.... I pull the mobo out of the box and it looks very nice, I pop the mobo in the case, plop my AMD XP 1800 in and my 512 DDR ram, connect everything and fire the puppy up.

I get into the BIO, make sure all is right, change the date, change the FSB speed from 100 to 133, and save the settings.

I reboot the machine, and NOTHING, the thing won't boot into the bios.... damn...

I pull the CMOS battery, reset the bios and boot up fine, but at 11.5 X 100fsb......

Next I try 134FSB, 132FSB, and finally give up with a FSB of 105... The thing won't boot with an FSB above 105...

There are no PCI/AGP bus dividers that I can see.

What the hell am I doing wrong?

Also, my board did not come with the pictured fan on the MSI DDR chip.

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?

2 things,
There is a new BIOS out that is supposed to fix the FSB issue.
2nd, only the RU board has that fancy chipset cooler.

 

[Cisco Kid]

Well, yesterday I went out on a mission to find a KT333 board.

Success, or so I thought... I picked up a MSI KT3 Ultra without the ARU, raid stuff... (they didn't have one) $125 bucks and I was on my way...

I get to the office and prepare to tear away at my case.... I pull the mobo out of the box and it looks very nice, I pop the mobo in the case, plop my AMD XP 1800 in and my 512 DDR ram, connect everything and fire the puppy up.

I get into the BIO, make sure all is right, change the date, change the FSB speed from 100 to 133, and save the settings.

I reboot the machine, and NOTHING, the thing won't boot into the bios.... damn...

I pull the CMOS battery, reset the bios and boot up fine, but at 11.5 X 100fsb......

Next I try 134FSB, 132FSB, and finally give up with a FSB of 105... The thing won't boot with an FSB above 105...

There are no PCI/AGP bus dividers that I can see.

What the hell am I doing wrong?

Also, my board did not come with the pictured fan on the MSI DDR chip.

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?

Your board did not come with the fan on the DDR chip cause it is the vertsion less RAID and USB 2.0, the ARU version comes with that.

I hope you figure out the issues and let us know what performance is like casue I plan to by the raid version.

Cisco KId

 

[Cisco Kid]

Re: Re: MSI KT3 Ultra .... Problems

Your board did not come with the fan on the DDR chip cause it is the vertsion less RAID and USB 2.0, the ARU version comes with that.

I hope you figure out the issues and let us know what performance is like casue I plan to by the raid version.

Cisco KId

OPPS I see Trancebear gave you the reason for no fan, and he looks like he has given you the info to correct the prob, let us all know how the board performs

Cisco Kid

 

[WebGod]

Yeqah I figure the fan only came on the raid version.... However it is pictured in the manual for both versions of the board.

I have been unable to change the FSB to anything higher than 110FSB...

It still locks up at 133Mhz..

To my knowledge there is only one bios (I use the Live BIOS utility). My curent bios is v5.00 release date 2002/02/19.

This is really frustrating... I guess I'll return this board and get an ASUS or Gigabyte.


Regards,
Jack

As for performance, it seems to be uninspiring.

 

[TranceBear]

Yeqah I figure the fan only came on the raid version.... However it is pictured in the manual for both versions of the board.

I have been unable to change the FSB to anything higher than 110FSB...

It still locks up at 133Mhz..

To my knowledge there is only one bios (I use the Live BIOS utility). My curent bios is v5.00 release date 2002/02/19.

This is really frustrating... I guess I'll return this board and get an ASUS or Gigabyte.


Regards,
Jack

As for performance, it seems to be uninspiring.

I would not use Live Update and go get the BIOS the old fashioned way, download it. It is a Beta BIOS, not one that live update will find.

 

[vandersl]

Just a quick thought...

Did you set the 100/133MHz jumper (SW1) on the MB to 133? It sounds like it is booting up with a 100MHz FSB, so the jumper seems to be in the wrong spot.

Just setting it to 133MHz in the BIOS doesn't change the PCI and AGP ratios.

Of course, this is just what I can glean from the manual.

 

[TranceBear]

Just a quick thought...

Did you set the 100/133MHz jumper (SW1) on the MB to 133? It sounds like it is booting up with a 100MHz FSB, so the jumper seems to be in the wrong spot.

Just setting it to 133MHz in the BIOS doesn't change the PCI and AGP ratios.

Of course, this is just what I can glean from the manual.

That board does not have a jumper for the FSB, it is in the BIOS.

 

[Dave65]

I just got mine today KT3 Ultra and so far I like it,I replaces my K7T 266 and so far so good,I got it running @ 178X9= 1602.That is with my 1600+.I dont know how stable it is yet but it is the best overclock I ever had.
I didnt change any jumpers I just changed from 100 to 133 and off I went..]
I hope you get yours going.Good luck

 

[Da Whip]

I had a similar problem w/ a Iwill XP333, no boot w/ 512mb ram. Try pulli9ng the RAM out and leave just 1 stick until you get all the drivers and etc. loaded. Windows does not always like 512mb RAM when installing.
I tried this and had no futher problems, I put in the 2nd stick and it rocked.

 

[h0mersimps0n]

On my KT3 ARU I fought with the board for 4 hours trying to get XP installed, decided to try switching out ram as last resort. Used my friends 2100 ram and xp installed on the first time. But back in the 2700xms corsair and worked like a dream. I wonder what the deal is with this memory thing. I've had other boards do this to me with really cheap ram, but my ram was definitely not cheap...

 

[sepah]

I have the same problem...can't set the fsb higher than 115
Higher value causes motherboard to don't POST, and I have to reset the bios.

My config :
MSI KT3 Ultra (Bios 5.2)
1800 xp+
256 Mo DDR PC2700
Geforce 3 ti200
Maxtor 40 Go

I have tried several config of RAM setting (HCLR, +33, +66) but doesn't seems to help

Can someone help me ?

 

[Dave65]

Sepah,were did you get that Bios,It isn't on the Live update?
All I see is the 5.10

 

[sepah]

You can find the 5.2 at the msi site :
http://www.msi.com.tw/support/bios/bios.php?model=MS-6380E+Ver1.0

(I don't trust liveUpdate...don't like that)

Any idea for my problem of FSB ?

 

[Dave65]

Gosh I dont know,mine is running 158X10 and very stable with all ram settings set for perfomance,I have been running Prime 95 for 2 days and not even a hikup so far.
Have you checked your Ram?
I had a problem with my ram with my K7T 266 Pro 2 and I ran Doc mem and I had one stick that was bad,and after I found the bad Dimm I took it out and it ran smoothly on 1 stick,and after I got the other stick RMA I added it back in the puter and was flawless until I had to get it repaired....
One of the Dimm slots was messed up.
But I would try and take everything out and just use the vid card and see what happens,unless you have already done so.
Were did you get the board,maybe send it back for a replacement.
Hope it works out for you

 

[sepah]

Thanks for the reply

Do yo know where can I find a tools to check my memory ?

 

[Dave65]

Yes @ www.simmtester.com
You have to load it on a floppy and then boot to the floppy,it works great..
Good luck

 

[TranceBear]

Sepah,were did you get that Bios,It isn't on the Live update?
All I see is the 5.10

Forget about LiveBIOS. It is NOT reliable.

 

[sepah]

Thanks for the link about doc mem.
I have tested my DDR, but everything seems ok

My PC is back to the reseller. When they checked it at first time, they though about a bad BIOS configuration, so they said "well in 10 minutes your computer is ready"...
But after 30 minutes, the tech came back and said "Can we keep your pc for 1 week, we have big problems..."

LOL ? hmmm maybe not...

 

[tbirdkiri]

wow...
thats goofy....
i was considering this board for my tbred that im getting, and it still sounds like a good choice, but i think you guys have something messed up in the bios, or you got a bad board.

btw: i have the msi 845 ultra AR and ive used the live update on it and it ran fine with no problems.