ok jeff whats the info on the epox board? i know the msi board has the ata 100 and all the good stuff weve come to expect from msi plus it will have the kt133a chipset that supports the 133mhz bus speeds, bus overclocking yeah! but hadnt heard much of the epox offering and have heard that epox boards have been suffering from some reliability problems of late how accurate that is im unsure... any new product info will be appreciated as to the fact that im mobo shoppin! well ya'll keep a clockin. yohan (on pool guys pooter...lol)