MY build and all the benchmark numbers

[EarthDog]

I uninstalled HWM

Hwinfo64.

 

[deathstar13]

I have them both, and HWMonitor is reporting it hit 102.1Mhz on the BCLK
my system is stable running smallest tft's in Prime.

 

[EarthDog]

There's always some float (called spread spectrum), but it's typically 1-2 mhz. 115 is an odd reading.

You can also confirm with CPUz.

 

[deathstar13]

I just stopped Prime and HWM hit 102Mhz but HWI64 reported no such activity.
I mainly use it for temps anyhow, Why its so buggy i dont know as im passing every test i throw at it.

 

[67Elco]

My question would be why bother with Monitor when you have HWINFO64? Unless someone else can verify this "float" in Monitor in actual use I have to believe you have some bad numbers entered somewhere in your bios.

 

[freeagent]

Mine stays pinned at 100MHz, no deviation at all.

 

[deathstar13]

I suppose it is easier to find and read the info on sensors im looking for.
My ram is set too EXPO. PBO is set to positive 200 and the curve optimizer is negative 20 on all cores. Thats all i use settings wise.
Something about my system HWM doesnt jive with, Its not just the BCLK acting up but my MHZ go screwy too.
Ill run prime and run both monitors and see whats real or not.

 

[67Elco]

Mine stays pinned at 100MHz, no deviation at all.

Same here on three different cpu's. I have heard for years complaints about flaky info being displayed in Monitor which is why I never use it. Betting if Death installed it on his laptop it would be pinned at 100MHz as well. Set bios to default values and run it again.

 

[deathstar13]

as you can see just after 5 minutes its giving odd readings on the BCLK

 

[67Elco]

Put your bios back to default values and see what it does.

 

[deathstar13]

ok i put everything stock except i enabled EXPO. I ran Prime about an hour and you can see the BCLK discrepancy also.
Ill leave it stock for a while as i like the lower temps as 200MHZ is only gonna show up in benchmarks.

 

[67Elco]

So, you actually didn't set the bios to default settings...

 

[deathstar13]

No, I suppose i didnt.
Ill do it tomorrow and post the results. From what i can tell its just HWM is flaky on my system.
Why put so much time in one an issue that doesnt matter.

 

[67Elco]

The point was that the issue appears only to affect you. Using complete default bios settings would better isolate the problem. It may be just me, but I would not trust any installed program that is obviously spewing out bogus information/values. Are we to just pick and choose what values are actually valid/truthful?

 

[Woomack]

I like WD products, Ill look into it and hopefully the speed is good too.
My Crucial T705 is a speed demon but alot of that speed gets wasted on random reads and writes but it still beats most drives.
But i need a Gen 4 4TB for games as i only have 1 Gen5 slot.

I was also looking at the Predator drives as they have DRam cache on them but i only see 2TB drives. I think that would be bad as i know me id try and Raid0 them.
Hopefully Amazon credits my account quickly as i dont want games on this 705 and just use it for windows and programs.

T500 is one of the best options on the market and is still reasonably priced. You won't find anything significantly better. If it died, then you had bad luck, as all Crucial drives are top quality. Crucial will reduce the performance faster than risk lowering the quality. Crucial support generally replaces everything in a week, but of course, Amazon returns work, too.

I assume you mean Predator GM7000, and this is a pretty bad option right now. Since the initial release over two years ago, they changed some things (firmware for sure) and it performs much worse right now. I mean up to 50% worse in some tasks than the first version. Most SSDs on the market have cache, and most are significantly faster. Many QLC DRAM-less SSDs are faster too. Cache on SSD is nothing new. They just keep the same marketing ads for over two years, so those who weren't following, think it's something good.

 

[deathstar13]

The point was that the issue appears only to affect you. Using complete default bios settings would better isolate the problem. It may be just me, but I would not trust any installed program that is obviously spewing out bogus information/values. Are we to just pick and choose what values are actually valid/truthful?

Ok ill get it set and run prime a few hours.

T500 is one of the best options on the market and is still reasonably priced. You won't find anything significantly better. If it died, then you had bad luck, as all Crucial drives are top quality. Crucial will reduce the performance faster than risk lowering the quality. Crucial support generally replaces everything in a week, but of course, Amazon returns work, too.

I assume you mean Predator GM7000, and this is a pretty bad option right now. Since the initial release over two years ago, they changed some things (firmware for sure) and it performs much worse right now. I mean up to 50% worse in some tasks than the first version. Most SSDs on the market have cache, and most are significantly faster. Many QLC DRAM-less SSDs are faster too. Cache on SSD is nothing new. They just keep the same marketing ads for over two years, so those who weren't following, think it's something good.

OK, ill get another T500 as i know it was rather quick and at most times felt as fast as my T705 windows drive.
I have everything setup with Amazon but having issues with UPS picking up the package but Amazon knows this and wont ding me for it going over 30 days return time.

 

[Woomack]

Here is how the 2TB version looks on my AMD rig in the 3DMark Storage benchmark (results from TG GC PRO review). The 4TB version of the T500 has around a 4000 score. Above are only PCIe 5.0 SSDs.



The Predator GM7000 on the list has old firmware. The new version gets a ... ~1700 score ... like top USB SSDs.
The 705 is not on the list, but it would be second.
For some reason, the T700 heats up more than the T705, and I guess it's worse than the T500 because of the thermal throttling. The T500 has one more advantage: it's one of the coolest SSDs from the high series.

My daily/gaming ITX PC has a 4TB Corsair MP700 Pro SE and a 4TB Crucial T500.

 

[deathstar13]

Here is how the 2TB version looks on my AMD rig in the 3DMark Storage benchmark (results from TG GC PRO review). The 4TB version of the T500 has around a 4000 score. Above are only PCIe 5.0 SSDs.

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The Predator GM7000 on the list has old firmware. The new version gets a ... ~1700 score ... like top USB SSDs.
The 705 is not on the list, but it would be second.
For some reason, the T700 heats up more than the T705, and I guess it's worse than the T500 because of the thermal throttling. The T500 has one more advantage: it's one of the coolest SSDs from the high series.

My daily/gaming ITX PC has a 4TB Corsair MP700 Pro SE and a 4TB Crucial T500.

Wow that is fast for a Gen4 drive. Cooling isnt an issue as my mobo has a built in heartsink but it only helps the top of the SSD. I have 3 standalone coolers i can use that will cool the tops and bottoms. And they sit over a 120mm case fan so they stay very cool. I wished i was able to afford a 4TB 705 when i bought my drives but 2TB for windows and programs is more than enough. I put all my games on the T500 4TB
Im rerunning all those test so hopefully we can see a difference in a few hours.

 

[deathstar13]

still same results on the BCLK and slight differences in many places.

 

[deathstar13]

I think its time i move on to OC'ing my GPU.
Im keeping my ram stock as going faster i loose 1:1 and it dont like tighter timings.
My cpu is at 200Mhz PBO and -20 on the scaling curve and passes any test i throw at it.
I just need a place to start, MSI afterburner or OC in the bios or some AMD app? Also if you can pass along what your speeds and voltages that would help too.
Ill do all the research i just need an angle to start from. Oh and the best benchmarks and stress tests would help.