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crimedog

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Just got all set up! It's a little different, hope you like it. Temps aren't what I expected them to be, I think i'm going to have to reseat the RBX.

mag3 --> RBX --> Maze4 --> HC (bottom of case cut out)

This is all in my enermax case (knock off of the thermaltakes)
 

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Bobaroo

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That looks weird....to me it looks Mag3 > RBX > Mag3 and the maze4 connected to the radiator...hmm i can't see :(
 

=ACID RAIN=

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I see it. If you clean up the wires it will look quite good. It looks good now, but the wires bug me. I would have recommended pump > rad > block > video, but that will work nicely too, and add some force to the flow in the block IMO.
 

BigSmokey

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Your rad's are intakes into the case right?

I would like more pics! If you could get better pics of your flows that would be nice.

Ill host them for you if you want (YGPM).
 

E-Licious

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Nice. Very short, simple tube routing. I like it. The color is attractive as well.

One thing though, you might want to suspend the case on something. You'll want some room underneath the case for the rad fans to draw air in.
 
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crimedog

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BigSmokey is hosting the pics for me.

I wanted to have the pump before the heatercore, but with this setup it seemed impossible. I wanted the shortest tube lengths possible and the most compact (I have 3 hard drives ^^)

I know the wiring is a mess, but for having 3 IDE drives and 7 fans I think some slack can be cut.

I just reseated my RBX and it's making a huge difference. 2.2 at 1.7v full load is now under 40C. I had about 52C before.
I've got some legs on there, it could probably use some more space E but those Enermax fans blow a ton of air anyway. And yes, they are intake. Cooling my video card and ram and such :)

I'm going to try maxing out my overclock soon, but I don't think my chip wants to do much above 2.3 :( With high vcore my mosfets get too hot to touch.

Thanks for looking!
 
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crimedog

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OK, here's all the pics with a short description.

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Dremeled me a big old hole to fit the heatercore. It sits about half an inch above the ground.

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Here's the shroud I'm using. It started as 2 of dangerden's clear shrouds, but I cut the ends off them and glued them together.

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Here's the bottom view, I don't use many pci slots anyway...

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Here's the whole shebang. The wiring is actually a little better than it looks... i swear... I've got the mag3 zipped to the back, with some damping material between it and the steel (vibrates a fair amount).

I love this thing, I'm getting about 35C idle, 39C load.
 

BigSmokey

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With that many IDE's I dont think you could do much better wiring.

If it were mine, I would be converned with the Rad's sucking up lint.
maybe a few more inches height would help your temps also. I have
cats though, so I think thats probably 75% of my buildup.
 

=ACID RAIN=

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Indeed, cats will gunk up alot won't they? I have 4 cats and two dogs, I know how it is.

I really like the way that rad fits in the bottom! Good work on the mods, and I was just giving you a hard time about the wires, it looks good ;)
 

ZachM

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Nice rig.:) I see some ways which you could clean up your wiring. Take all of your fan molex connectors and tape them to the back of the mobo tray. Then run a molex from the PSU behind the tray to give them power. You might need to drill a couple of holes, but it would be worth it. It would not only looks better, but it would probably help out temps a little. For the wires you can't connect behind the mobo tray, try to keep the wires as far back as possible, then bring them up front only to plug them into things. Also if you aren't using those top USB connetors, remove the wires. If you are try to run them closer to the motherboard then having them up front like they are currently.
 

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haha I got the same heatercore as you! monster, ain't it? I currently have a mid-tower, and have that thing wedged behind the computer between the wall and desk sitting on a stroooong roomfan pushing up into two shrouded 92mm sunons pulling.

I am getting a case your size though and had given some thought to either gettting a chevette (same thing, half size) or figuring out a good place to mount the big arse one. I am thinking I will create a false bottom by moving up the motherboard into the upper left of the case and creating a cooling compartment in the bottom. A prommie might go there, or it would be a good place to isolate the heatercore. Like your idea though. i may move it to teh front of the new case and have it blow air out the front - I bet that's not in AMD's airflow diagram!
 

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for giggles, ahve you run your rad anywhere else? Iwonder if your temps are not a result of inadequate air going through the thing. From what I have seen, it does not require TOO much air - turning on or off the massive room fan under mine (which must push like 9000cfm - well, alot) only drops my temps .5-1c over the shrouded 2x92mm sunons. also, I hope you lapped up that RBX real good. That's usually good for 3c or so. (if done right)

what was your pump flow again? blocks like those need a bunch of flow, 300-400gph.

and clean up that rat's nest and you're certain to see ambient drop, and cpu along with it. Plus, itll look cooler ;)
 

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crimedog said:
OK, here's all the pics with a short description.

Dremeled me a big old hole to fit the heatercore. It sits about half an inch above the ground.

Here's the shroud I'm using. It started as 2 of dangerden's clear shrouds, but I cut the ends off them and glued them together.

I love this thing, I'm getting about 35C idle, 39C load.

Very nice work Crimedog with the limited amount of space you had to work with.
Two questions for you: Are the fans on the radiator exhaust or intake?
and How is the radiator suspended? are the tanks just resting on the bottom of the case?
 

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crimedog said:
I had about 52C before.
I've got some legs on there, it could probably use some more space E but those Enermax fans blow a ton of air anyway. And yes, they are intake. Cooling my video card and ram and such :)

Fans are intake
 

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Looks good man!

Very nice job cramming all of that stuff into your case- it may be a good sized case, but that IS a lot of stuff after all! ;)

Cleaning up the wiring would make it look better, and may improve temps a bit, but it will be a lot of work....if you have a window it probably is worth it though.

Making some legs or some sort of riser for the case will help: the fans work better with more free room in front and behind:
I use a core about the same as yours in the front of my main rig- when I leave the case's front door open cpu temp goes down 2 or 3c with the fans at the same speed.....
 
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sorry for the late responses, i was skiing :D

i don't have the time, patience, skills, or tools to do the kind of testing i probably should have. i wanted this all to fit and give me good performance, and that's exactly what it is doing.

the wiring i will tackle some day, but i seem to always be upgrading and whatnot, so who knows when it'll get done. i don't have a window case anyways :rolleyes:

the front and back of this heatercore protrude from the square fins, so they are holding it on with some adhesive to keep it in place.

just hope you guys got some ideas and don't all follow the "cookie-cutter" chevette heatercore /w 120's mounted at the front cooling system.
 

ayoung

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Is there any other way to mount your Radiator?

I have a smaller D-tek Rad and i really dont wanna cut gaping holes in my case.

Well I should have said, that looks like a Xaser III and thats what I have.

So saying that, did you think about putting it any where else?

Adam
 
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i have three hard drives, and i'm thinking about doing a raptor raid setup... so the front of the case was out of the question.

I was origionally planning on bracing the side with steel brackets and bolting the HC down to them. i even bought the cold welding epoxy, but thought of the bottom mounting first. this would require a smaller shroud more than likely, it's quite large with HC + shroud + fan.

this was my situation though, i didn't want anything sticking out he side, or require special placement around my dorm (no space!). be creative. take some measurements and play around with cardboard.

and yes, this is the Xaser III knock-off case.