neopreme shim wasted my xp2000

[krag]

Man this sucks! I tried to get my waterblock/pelt going tonight and cooked my xp2000! I ordered some 1/16 neopreme from danger den and I cut a shim out of it. I thought it was kinda thick but I figured if I just sinch domn the screww it will smash out. Well I sinched it down to where I thought I was going to pop a ziff lug and figured that would be good enough. I turned on my rig and it wouldn't post, so I turned it off and then on again and waited for about 20-30 sec and still no post. So I took the h2o block off and looked at the ACS3 I smeared on the cpu core and just about half a matchhead had made contact with the bottom of the h2o block. All of my mobo lights come on. I am sure it is a fried cpu, doesn't it only take a few seconds to fry one if it doesn't have good contact?

Do I have to have a shim? The core of the XPs' are really short.

I am going to buy another XP2000 tomorrow or the next day, right now i am stuck with my laptop.

Let me know what you guys think, thanks krag

 

[army_man]

yo man sorry bout the cpu no offense but there are just some things ya cant rig.

 

[Diggrr]

Sorry to hear about the XP bud, in a new setup I always tighten down the block, remove it to check contact, then reinstall before the first power up....guess you will now too, huh?

You try repowering it with just the hsf? Maybe after it cools down, it was just playing possum like mine did. I also totally fried (charcoal...really!) one of the small power caps on the t-bird's surface and it's still running.

Good luck man!

 

[Lt. Max]

why dont amd put the thermal protection like intel ? :\

 

[RoadWarrior]

Well there's a thermal diode in the XP core, barely any motherboards use it though

Road Warrior

 

[krag]

Nope its cooked, I just tried to boot and no beep, no nothing. Do you guys think I can get away with no shim on my next cpu? Is it absolutly neccessary?

 

[Istari1]

Now do you still have the pelt hooked up? Maybe your PSU just cant handle the strain of the pelt and thats why you are getting no post. Also look for a short...try it outside the case.

Josh

 

[Colin]

Very sorry to hear about this. Unless Danger Den has changed the ILD (index of load deflection) of the neoprene they supply, the shim is not at fault. The other variables are how even the clamping pressure is for your waterblock and could the insulation on the motherboard have prevented proper contact with the CPU die? As with any HS or waterblock installation, it's best to check for proper contact with the CPU die before firing up the system.

 

[Lt. Max]

well this also kinda shows that intel isnt always more expensive then amd..

 

[krag]

I have my pelt hooked to an exterior Antec 510w psu. If danger den has the 1/16 neopreme dialed in for xp cores then I probably didn't tighten it down good enough?

 

[Colin]

If danger den has the 1/16 neopreme dialed in for xp cores then I probably didn't tighten it down good enough?

Either the block was not tightened down or something else, such as interference with insulation between the block and the motherboard prevented it from seating properly.

 

[krag]

I checked the isnsulation around the sockett, and it is level with the sockett surface so there is noway that could be it. I bet I was too afraid of snapping a lug that I didn't sinch it down good enough. Is it easy to snap them or kinda hard? The instructions that came with my h2o block said just to make it snug.

 

[Colin]

Yodums just snapped one.

 

[Miss_Man]

I've never really had the guts to use a neoprene shim myself. Also, neoprene pushes outwards as you squeeze down so you need some space around the core. And unless you stick it down, there's a danger of it moving while you are mounting your block.
I use insulative tape shim myself. It takes a little more time but its better for my case. I put layers of tape till near the height of the core. I check it with a HS first to see if its just nice. |Once done, it stays there and doesn't move so when you remount, you don't have to do it again. It takes care of the airpockets and prevents chipping. Works for me.