networking

[alcyn]

I'm trying to get xp, 98, w2k machines to work together. The 98 machines can get to the shared folders on the xp machines, but not on the w2k machines. when I try a 98 to a w2k machine I always get asked for a password. All of these machines are on a home network, so I don't use passwords. I have netbui on all the 98 machines along with file and print sharing, tcp/ip/ ,client for microsoft networks, and microsoft family logon. The w2k machines have client for microsoft networks, file and printer sharing, netbui, and tcp/ip...........
What am I doing wrong??

Thanks, Al

 

[DDR-PIII]

so what kinda switch are you using ? or hub...whatever.

 

[rogerdugans]

Win2K uses passwords.
Even if you don't see them, it uses them- built-in security that can be bypassed for the local user but not for network access.
(WinXP is essentially the same as 2K but there may be some changes to local lans that I don't know about. I don't use XP.)

Basically, what you need is to have a User account on the Win2K machines that has the same login name and password for all the pcs and then set them all to automatically login to that account when they start up (if you have no interest/need for security.)

That should take care of it as long as there are no other issues....to test for basic connectivity try "pinging" the other computers and see if they respond. (At a command prompt type- ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the X's are the ip addresses of each computer.) If you get reponses from them all then the useer account bit should take care of you. If you get a "Destination not found" or "unavailable" message then you have TCP/IP config errors.

I do have one suggestion for your lan though: ditch netbeui. TCP/IP can handle all of the needs you have unless you are using some seriously old software applications, and having just one protocol makes troubleshooting easier.

 

[alcyn]

None of the 98 machines use a login or password...........do I need to set the 98 machines up with a user name and password so they can communicate with the w2k machines?? With referfence to pinging, I can get to any of the 98 machines from the w2k machines
My hub or switch is a Netgear RP614

 

[rogerdugans]

Can you ping the 2k machines from the 98 machines?
If yes then it is the authentication issue.
If no then you have a tcp/ip problem to solve first- then you will have the authentication issue.

Yes, the 98 machines need user account info to be able to access resources on the Windows 2000 pcs.

It works like this:
Win2K will not allow non-authenticated access to any user, local or network. Each time a resource (file, printer, anything) is accessed, an authenticated id is attached to the process. Without an id, the process is not allowed, period.

Windows 98 doesn't need that because it handles resources differently: by default it allows anyone, anywhere, access to everything. Thats why you can hit the esc key when/if it prompts for a username/password to login initailly and still get in. No security at all.

If you can ping the 2k machines from the 98 ones then all you need is a user account (User= house, password=house) on the Win2k boxes and then use exactly that same username and password when starting up the Win98 rigs.

 

[alcyn]

I did what you said and it worked..............except for one of my w2k machines. I still get the same message when I try to connect ( it ask for a password) I tried "house" as the account is named, but it did not work (access denied). I can ping this machine without any problems. I have compared the setting on the 2 wnk machines, and they are identical as far as I can tell. Any ideas??
Thanks for your help.............Merry Xmas