New Card Data at LAR

[KeeperOfTheButch]

Looks like LAR is going to be soon posting some data on a new card. I hope its not the 5090 or 5080 but I'm sure it is.

GPU Folding@Home PPD Overall Ranks Database

folding.lar.systems

I hope the data is just jacked from people playing video games while folding.

 

[Slayer2003]

Kind of silly that they are baiting us with the data instead of just releasing anything on the 50 series cards. Also, oof. Second place? Big oof.

 

[infinitevalence]

well the good news is that 50 series under-perform in folding so maybe we can get some used 40 series on ebay for decent value!

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

I think there are going to be a lot of people skipping the 50 series for all kinds of reasons. Its really going to depend on what prices settle down to after the hype tapers off. The 5070Ti reviews today are terrible. It just not worth it.

I feel like for folding, it seems like the cards are 15% faster but use 15% more power. That makes it a wash, not worth the upgrade. We are looking to add, so hopefully 40 series gets cheap or 50 series becomes more reasonable.

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

Did they add another 4080 Super or is that a typo?

 

[EarthDog]

If it's ~22M PPD, that's what I saw with the 5080.

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

If it's ~22M PPD, that's what I saw with the 5080.

I forgot you tested PPD on the 5080. Must be a 5080 then. The gains are so small. Sad generation for F@H.

 

[EarthDog]

I forgot you tested PPD on the 5080. Must be a 5080 then. The gains are so small. Sad generation for F@H.

It's more than the raster/gaming side of things at least. Those people would kill for 25% increase, lol.

 

[Slayer2003]

Looks like they removed it from the overall ranking page, and the efficiency page as well. Guessing they are either wanting to collect more data on the cards, or there's something else going on. Dunno about you but I'd be fuming if I sold my 4090 for a 5090 and it performed worse for folding. ;3

 

[EarthDog]

Dunno about you but I'd be fuming if I sold my 4090 for a 5090 and it performed worse for folding. ;3

It's a good thing it doesn't then.

 

[EarthDog]

well the good news is that 50 series under-perform in folding

Just saw this and I'm curious... in what way? Are we talking because of the price to play?

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

The thing that really bugs me is that we wont see a leap in efficiency. It will still be around $0.04 per million PPD.

 

[EarthDog]

The thing that really bugs me is that we wont see a leap in efficiency. It will still be around $0.04 per million PPD.

That's going to vary by card, no? How are you comparing? Look at the 4080S vs 5080...

~18M PPD @ 320W
~22M PPD @ 360W

So... you get a ~22% increase in PPD for a ~13% increase in power. 5070ti would likely be similar ppd for less power.

 

[Woomack]

I think I pointed out in one of the older threads that the list isn't really accurate. When I was folding in mid-2024, my RTX4080 had between 21M and 24M PPD. Some of my other cards had significantly different results than listed, too.
I don't know if it's a matter of rig or the user, but it's weird when results are +/- 30% on the same card when they OC about 5%. Maybe so many people run it at a lowered power limit.

 

[EarthDog]

Yeah, if it that off, it's not any better, lol. The 5080 is actual/my result.

 

[Woomack]

Yeah, if it that off, it's not any better, lol. The 5080 is actual/my result.

I saw 20 M PPD on the worst projects, so maybe it's even correct if you had something similar. The average PPD on the RTX4080 is slightly higher than on the RTX4080 Super if we look at the list, and it's not accurate either, so who knows at what settings these cards run and in what projects?
I had 2-3M PPD more on RTX4070 and RTX4070S last year than listed. At the 70% power limit, I still had higher PPD than on the list. I was only using Win11 while Linux is supposed to give slightly higher results.

It doesn't change the fact that the 5000 series doesn't really change anything in folding, and I know many team members were counting on that. It's still good if you buy a new card (if you get it cheap enough), but it's not really a good idea as a replacement for the 4000 series.

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

Well, There it is. That's some big gains! I'm glad it wasn't just 29M or something lame. Now to figure out how to get one, lol.

 

[WhitehawkEQ]

Here is some more info on the RTX 5090, now this is just the beginning with only 43 samples but it should get better over time.



Here is the RTX 4090

 

[dfonda]

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Well, There it is. That's some big gains! I'm glad it wasn't just 29M or something lame. Now to figure out how to get one, lol.

That is promising. I am back to actively hunting for one.

 

[KeeperOfTheButch]

Uhhh.... wut? The SXM5 is a socket version of the h100. 120M is one hell of a leap in PPD over the 4090.

NVIDIA H100 SXM5 80 GB Specs

NVIDIA GH100, 1980 MHz, 16896 Cores, 528 TMUs, 24 ROPs, 81920 MB HBM3, 1313 MHz, 5120 bit

www.techpowerup.com

5090 PPD falling with more samples available. Around 200 as of right now. Do you think it will fall more? I wouldn't be surprised.