New member and looking for some guides and help

[Arabicuser]

Hey there,

I am new in this forum, and i went to many-like sites/forums to this for help, some are good enough and some are just not giving direct answers and give suggestions mostly or waiting long for no answers, so i hope in this site i can have good experience and help that i hope to help me in my computer world.

About 3 months ago i decided to build a computer, didn't read much and just chose few components and let one locally shop nearby to choose the other components, after i read about components more i discovered i didn't bought high rated or better choices components, so that ended me to go with 2 builds instead of 1, and because i got excited i planned to do one more build for kids if they needed, so i have 3 builds so far.

I will attach a doc showing the 3 builds i ended up with, i would like some guides about something to improve, i don't want to change the whole build components which means another new build, just few enlighten may help me with my builds.

I am now in process to complete my first build as i let one shop to do 2nd and 3rd builds, but few pics from those 2 builds on one site and people told me they didn't do any great service for me as they left the case inside in mess with cables/wires, so i decided i will do that first build by myself, but i am not good at all in putting things and readin all related manuals and some videos didn't make me sure or ready yet, so i hope here i can get more help about going to build the first one in more details step by step, if some can help here great, if not doesn't matter, i will do my best.

Any request for further more details or pics just ask me

Thanks!!!

 

[EarthDog]

Well.. yikes. VERY solid rigs across the board honestly... though you could have saved HUNDREDS by using less wattage PSUs, and motherboards, less ram (32GB is overkill for 99% of people. 8GB is plenty for a gaming machine).

I dont see anything to change.

 

[Arabicuser]

Well.. yikes. VERY solid rigs across the board honestly... though you could have saved HUNDREDS by using less wattage PSUs, and motherboards, less ram (32GB is overkill for 99% of people. 8GB is plenty for a gaming machine).

I dont see anything to change.

Thank you very much for your fast reply and comment.

Well, in fact i wasted money from the beginning when i let that shop choosing Gigabyte board for me, i didn't like it from all read and reviews, and couldn't return it, so i bought ASUS board and that forced me to have 2 builds instead of 1.

About PSU, yes, on another site they told me they are overkill, but let's say that AX860 is not expensive and got it at very reasonable price, so only 1200 and 1250, for 1250 i know it was expensive, but in my country i couldn't find Seasonic any cheaper powers at all, in fact i was shocked and surprised that i found Seasonic PSU from one link of UAE market called "Souq", it has only one piece and i heard that Seasonic is a slid reliable one, so i didn't think twice and spent that much and never look back, i don't care if i spent a lot on it, it will serve me for long time. about Corsair AX1200, in fact i was planning to get it first to be in my first build, but because i bought Seasonic after it i decided to return it, but the shop i bought from turned out to be expensive and bad service they first didn't accept to return it, then later they priced all other PSU very expensive, so that 600-700 was about cheaper than AX1200 for $40-80, so to me they forced me to keep that AX1200 due to not much refund they will do for me, and didn't want to be in 600-700W range as i may add more components in the future, many said that 600W or 700W is plenty, but if i asked for more additional components they keep saying you may be fine but better get something more, 800-1200, and because that 800W and over is expensive already so saving $50-100 for me is nothing, 1200 and 1250 will serve me for years and still i have room to add more components such as GPUs and HDD and optical drives.

ASUS motherboard i've got is sure expensive, but it is like one time purchase, i hope to complete that first build and see its performance.

For RAM, well, it is getting cheap these days, i can afford even 64GB, so i decided i should go either with 16GB or 32GB, i got a good deal for 32GB that saved me rather than buying 16GB twice, i will never look back now for more RAM for years too, but i want you opinion because i went with high RAM because the first build will not be only for gaming, but also for photography editing with large files of photos and panos stitching that may lead to 1-10GB file size for one final photo, also videography editing, i want to have a future proof machine and to have it at high settings so i can use it for anything for long time, overkill for me is only about wasting money, but who knows when that overkill will be necessary or a must one day?

 

[EarthDog]

That giga board is more appropriate than the ASUS by far. That ASUS, while a great board, is something made for extreme overclockers in that there are lots of features you are not even using.

Ram is actually a lot more expensive now than it was 6 months ago. But you do seem to use it, and that is what matters.

Anyway, nice rigs, and there is really nothing to upgrade on them at all. Nice!

 

[Arabicuser]

That giga board is more appropriate than the ASUS by far. That ASUS, while a great board, is something made for extreme overclockers in that there are lots of features you are not even using.

Ram is actually a lot more expensive now than it was 6 months ago. But you do seem to use it, and that is what matters.

Anyway, nice rigs, and there is really nothing to upgrade on them at all. Nice!

Appropriate in what, value or performance? In fact both are very closer in price, so if i have a budgt to get only one of them then why not going for the better performance or overkill? But anyway, as i said, i bought Gigabyte first but the more i read about it the more i feel disappointed, before yesterday i inserted new SSD on that gigabyte board [which is my 2nd rig] and kept the one it has before and i formatted that old one and installed Windows 7 fresh on the new added SSD, i couldn't boot to windows after restart at all, i checked the BIOS 10 times and i set to boot from that SSD only, i even disconnected that other old SSD to keep only the new one, it still didn't boot in windows, could be my error, but this gave me a bad impression about Giga board immediately, i hope to fix this issue as soon as possible, but i am not busy in trying to finish my first build -first- then focus on that issue.

 

[EarthDog]

They both perform the same. Appropriate as in, you will use its features. The UD5 and RIVE are about $140+ difference in price in the US. But hey, parts are bought, nothing anyone can do about it.

Not sure why it wouldnt boot to windows, but, I doubt the board has a fault in it. It is more than likely a setting in windows or something with the SSD, or human error. Regardless what you may read, its your use of it that shapes the preception.

 

[Arabicuser]

They both perform the same. Appropriate as in, you will use its features. The UD5 and RIVE are about $140+ difference in price in the US. But hey, parts are bought, nothing anyone can do about it.

Not sure why it wouldnt boot to windows, but, I doubt the board has a fault in it. It is more than likely a setting in windows or something with the SSD, or human error. Regardless what you may read, its your use of it that shapes the preception.

I will have time later to figure out the problem, but i took out that previous SSD, it was working fine, but i replaced it, and now i am searching for how to format and reset that previous SSD so i can use it again on another computer or even in same computer for other things rather than OS, i will try to figure out what's wrong with this computer, that new SSD i put is same as the one in my third computer i built for kids, and it is blazing fast amazing on first time use of fresh win 7 installation before i do updating and installing drivers/bios/firmwares...etc, i never get that boot speed in my life before, even faster than many fast boot i watched in youtube, but i shocked why it didn't boot or work on my second computer.

Well, i think in my country, prices are not honest or decent, many cheat you in prices here, for example, i paid 1485 UAE dirhams for GA-UD5 and paid 1600 UAE dirhams for Asus RIVE, the difference is 115 Dirhams, that is about $30, say $50, say $80, still very much closer in price, i can get you Asus RIVE cheaper than what you have in USA, but i am sure i can get that Gigabyte GA-X79-UD% if still available way cheaper in USA than UAE, so this is the problem here, they put prices according to their minds and according to demands, if one board costs $300 and another one less performance is $200, when many people buy that $200 board then sudden they sell that board for $240-280.

 

[Arabicuser]

Just a help please, from this pic, how is this fan operate, taking the air out of the case or blowing the air in the case?

I really don't know at all about the fans air direction, i want someone who is sure about it and not assumptions.

 

[EarthDog]

Its easy, just look at the orientation of the blades. In this case, this fan would blow air towards us, not through the fan.

For case airflow...

Front/side = intake
top/rear = exhaust

 

[Arabicuser]

Its easy, just look at the orientation of the blades. In this case, this fan would blow air towards us, not through the fan.

For case airflow...

Front/side = intake
top/rear = exhaust

so to make it easy for me, if i look at the fan in front of my say from top or directly, if the blade move from left to right [clockwise] means the flow is blow towards me, and the opposite is air blows further away of me?

Give me a clue on that orientation of the blades, from the photos, how the blades will move? clockwise or counter-clockwise?

 

[EarthDog]

Counter clockwise.

 

[Arabicuser]

Counter clockwise.

Thank you very much for this answer, so then i confirm the direct of the fan, i just changed the direction of the fan to be opposite than of on that pic, then i left with the cooler itself, now i am not sure if i placed the 2 fans of the cooler right then, can you tell me which one should be the right one? should i have the air to blow on the radiator itself?

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2012/12/corsair-h100i-review/h100i-4b.jpg

http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/review_images_featured_121124_2.jpg

I placed the cooler and radiator inside my case in this way [the below pics]:

http://www.corsair.com/us/media/cat...d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/1/h100i_motherboard.png
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww350/F1REFOX2107/P1070527.jpg

 

[EarthDog]

Front/sides = intake
Top/rear = exhaust

Set your fans up that way. You know how to figure out which way the air is flowing so this should be a simple exercise.

 

[Arabicuser]

Front/sides = intake
Top/rear = exhaust

Set your fans up that way. You know how to figure out which way the air is flowing so this should be a simple exercise.

Ok, got it, but i think from many comments, they advise the opposite, means i have to make the side to be exhaust and the top to be intake, so only change the direction of top/side, and from this diagram i suppose that my case came in that default as you mentioned [front/side = intake, top/rear = exhaust]?

http://c1.neweggimages.com/BizIntell/item/11/119/11-119-225/hafx_003.jpg

 

[EarthDog]

Here is the thing. AirFLOW is the key to keep the entire PC cool. If you jack with the exhaust up top to be intake, you CPU may be 1-3C cooler, but other components will be a bit warmer due to the slightly warmer air coming in the case from the radiator.

Where you are overclocking, if you are, you do not need every single degree C for the CPU so its best to have proper airFLOW through your case.

 

[Arabicuser]

Here is the thing. AirFLOW is the key to keep the entire PC cool. If you jack with the exhaust up top to be intake, you CPU may be 1-3C cooler, but other components will be a bit warmer due to the slightly warmer air coming in the case from the radiator.

Where you are overclocking, if you are, you do not need every single degree C for the CPU so its best to have proper airFLOW through your case.

In fact it is difficult for me to understand that AirFlow mechanism, so if i have that case and a cooler for CPU, how can i setup all? some told me to try all options, i don't want to open and un-screw again and again just to make things right, what is the best way to keep my cpu cool for overclock and also the GPU and the case? the GPU i bought has additional fans to install it, i don't know if i need to do it, but as long i bought this version then let's say i hope that additional fans will do a good job keeping the GPU fine, i am thinking to OC the CPU more not the GPU but i could give that GPU a go sometimes

 

[EarthDog]

I mentioned a couple times...

Front/sides = intake
Top/rear = exhaust

I would stick with that.

Like I said, you don't need every degree C for your CPU. You are essentially going to pick an achievable overclock and make it happen, not break any records.

 

[Arabicuser]

I mentioned a couple times...

Front/sides = intake
Top/rear = exhaust

I would stick with that.

Like I said, you don't need every degree C for your CPU. You are essentially going to pick an achievable overclock and make it happen, not break any records.

In fact i am not worry about the case fans, say if i leave everything as it is, but how i setup the cooler then? I am not sure if i placed the fans on the radiator correctly, also now sure if placing the radiator under the top fan is also the way to go, you only commented on the case AirFlow system, but you didn't tell me how to setup/place the cooler i use for CPU, and as you said, i am not looking for to break records or have ice cold, just i want to have good enough cooling so i can use it regular with or without OC.

 

[EarthDog]

The radiator should be a part of that plan... just make sure its mounted up top with the fans exhausting out of the case.

 

[Arabicuser]

The radiator should be a part of that plan... just make sure its mounted up top with the fans exhausting out of the case.

Ok, thank you very much