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Canadian_4_Evr

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I'm going 2 be buying a brand new computer in the next week or so... i want to be able to hit between 3.0-3.2Ghz. This is what i've been looking at so far

Asus p4p800
P4 2.6c
OCZ dual channel pc4000 EL 2x512 copper heatspreader
120g Maxtor SATA HDD
Radeon 9200
Leadtech TV2000 XP Deluxe
Thermal Right SLK-947U Copper Heatsink
3x Spectrum 80mm UV LED Case Fan - Blue & Green

This setup is about 2,000 CDN... with monitor and speakers and other stuff... Would u guys change anything??? i chose that vid card because i won't be doin any hardcore gamin, but if u can find a better card thats about the same price i might consider it.
 

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Welcome to the forums!!!


Looks like a good list. Unless you want to go 1:1 with your memory, I'd look at the OCZ PC3700 Gold or Mushkin PC3500 (still bh-5) and save a few bucks. Then you can put the extra cash you just saved into a 9600 Pro.

-Bobby
 
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Thanks :D

I don't really understand the 1:1 or 5:4 thingy but would staying with pc4000 decrease the ammount i could overclock it?? I'll probly end up buyin the 9600 anyways... just wanted 2 make sure i was on the right track.
 

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The PC4000 won't decrease your o/c but most likely they're just o/c'd pc3200 modules that they charge a lot for just to get to those speeds at very loose timings. The Mushkins are excellent memory modules.

-Bobby
 

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You should go with a 2.4c or a 2.8c, in general those OC better than the 2.6c,
 
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????

Wait, so ur tellin me that the pc4000 ram is just pc3200 or somethin thats been o/ced... would i be able to buy the pc 3200 and just oc it myself 2 perform like pc4000???? I've been told that the 2.6c would be my best bet... I'm not looking to oc it as far as it can go... I just want a stable oc above 3Ghz... So, say I buy a 2.4c and oc it to 3Ghz... would it last as long/be as stable as a 2.6c oced to 3Ghz??? I've been told by people on the Toms Hardware forum that the 2.6c would be my best bet.
 

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They've just started using 4.3ns IC's (still pc3700 IC) on their memory modules but most are still 5ns (pc3200 IC) o/c'd to supposedly guaranteed PC4000 speeds. BUT... you have to use really slow timings (3-4-4-8). You can get PC4000 speeds with PC3500 if you use those timings. You're just paying them to test it to those speeds.

I tested a 2.6c from NewEgg.com recently (about 2 weeks ago) and it could barely do 3ghz stable. 2.4c would probably be your best bet to get 3ghz at 5:4 mem ratio with pc3200 modules. I don't know about 2.8c's since I haven't tried any.

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i thought i was better off using 1:1 ratio

So, i could just use pc3200 and it would perform just as good as the pc4000?? would a 2.4c oced 2 about 3ghz last as long as the 2.6c would??? cuz i'm buildin this 2 make it lase like 4 years
 

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Real PC3200 memory should be fine but the problem is that most memory manufacturers are selling o/c'd pc2700 as 3200. Look for some PC3500 or PC3700 and you should be fine.

2.4c will last just as long as any other cpu. The problem with your expectations of a computer system lasting 4 yrs is fine if you just surf the web and do simple tasks (word processing and spreadsheets) but if you plan on playing the latest games and doing more, expect 2-3 yrs out of your system max.

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Thanks,

K, I see what u mean... any sugestion 4 manufacturer??? also, i was lookin at the abit AI7... it has a bunch of features i like plus its a lot cheaper then the asus... any problems wit that??

Sorry about this, i'm brand new 2 ocing... i'm usin a p2 266 atm and havn't been able 2 experiment wit anything...
 

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I've been reading good things about the Abit AI7 but I don't have any personal experience. I'm sure it's a good board. Mushkin and OCZ are both good choices. If you go with OCZ, you'll need the Gold series.

-Bobby
 
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2.4 or 2.8??

K, decided 2 get the ocz 3700 gold... but i'm still uncertain about the processor. I know not 2 go wit the 2.6, but should i get the 2.4c or 2.8c, there is a very small price difference, and 400mhz difference between the two. If i were to get a low end 2.4 or 2.8 what would the highest i would be able 2 oc them?? Would i get a higher speed wit the 2.8 or 2.4, if i got an average one...
 

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I can't say about the 2.8c's since I don't have any experience with them but I've seen every 2.4c reach at least 3.0ghz. That with the higher fsb, I'd think the 2.4c would outperform a 2.8c at the same cpu speed. And it's about $40usd cheaper for the 2.4c.

-Bobby
 
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Cooling

Hmm havn't been able 2 find any places in canada that sells the 3700 ocz 1024mb gold series... Would a black or copper version be just as well suited??

What minimum rpm should i have on some fans 4 the case??
 

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Gold is the only OCZ modules recommended by OCZ for the 865/875 chipset. If you can't get them in Canada, I would have to recommend Twinmos Twister PC3700. I have the regular PC3700 and they seem to work the best out of Corsair, Mushkin or Buffalo in my personal experiences.

You'll have to test the fans on the case you choose. There's no set rpm for case fans.

-Bobby
 

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i have not had any problems with my pc3700 geil and the 2.4c are great ocers with stock cooling u can hit 3+ghz from what i understand i just happened to get a good chip and with my sp94 im at 3.6 :p