New pc build

[overjuicecheese]

Hi all,

I am trying to build a new PC and overclock. I not sure how well will the memory work with r7 2700 for OCing and will 16gb of memory enough for games like witcher 3 or BDO?

Will be running on Wins 10.

I would love to have feedback on the rig and changes that I could make. Before I forgot the budget would be $1500 CAD.

Thanks in advance for any input.


build list:
PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pz8DcY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pz8DcY/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($398.47 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($161.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($230.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($152.00 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Low Profile Video Card ($287.99 @ PC-Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: *Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($22.92 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Total: $1454.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-04 16:17 EDT-0400

 

[trents]

Two recommendations I have:
1. The Ripjaws V memory you have listed may or may not run at full rated speed with the Ryzen CPU. Best chance to see your memory run at a full 3200 mhz would be to move up to the GSKill 3200 models that use the Samsung "B" die memory which are those that kits that run at CL 15 or 14 and most likely they will be the Samsung B. FlareX and TridentZ mostly. More expensive they are yes.
2. You GTX 1050 Ti may be inadequate for a lot of AAA games. Yes, I know how unreasonably expensive GPUs are now.

 

[||Console||]

Is gaming your goal? If so getting a better gfx card vs the R7 will give you much better FPS .

Here is a Build I would look @ in your price range With a better PSU / Case / GFX card / Ram . ( I picked the same storage for the price but if you could stretch the budget a bit I would pick a different SSD )

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yjwLP3

Here are a few reviews and Vids so you can see the difference in gaming in minimal and having a 1060 vs 1050ti is a big step .

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-and-ryzen-5-2600x-cpu-review/

 

[trents]

And yes, 16 gb of RAM is plenty for gaming and most anything else except professional photo and video editing.

 

[overjuicecheese]

Is gaming your goal? If so getting a better gfx card vs the R7 will give you much better FPS .

Here is a Build I would look @ in your price range With a better PSU / Case / GFX card / Ram . ( I picked the same storage for the price but if you could stretch the budget a bit I would pick a different SSD )

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yjwLP3

Here are a few reviews and Vids so you can see the difference in gaming in minimal and having a 1060 vs 1050ti is a big step .

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-and-ryzen-5-2600x-cpu-review/

I was wondering whats the difference between 2700 and 2600x. I watch a couple YT videos and a number reviewers said without the X OC will be more, I not sure is that true, I would like to have more feedback.

My end goal is not just gaming, I would be doing some CAD work for my project, streaming and coding, I understand I would need 16GB and I am looking into it.

Thanks for the feedback

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As for GPU what would you guys suggest, forego the FPS and just wait for the current GPU prices to go down? GPU and memory is like the same price

 

[trents]

Performance gains from using high speed RAM are quite minor in actual real life computing. It''s of more importance if you are into competitive bench marking. If push comes to shove in the budget I would like to see you go with a better video card instead of putting more money into expensive RAM. If you could move up to a GTX 1060 you will see far more gains in your gaming, CAD and coding experience than going with more expensive "B" die Samsung memory.

The "X" CPUs generally overclock better but the difference is not much. The much bigger issue is that the 2700 has two more cores and four more threads. No way will the 2600x perform as well in multi-threaded apps as the 2700. If you want to get a pretty good idea of what the overclock potential of the new Ryzens are, just look at the Max Boost frequency. They will overclock all the cores to about that point given adequate cooling.

 

[overjuicecheese]

Sorry I was overwhelmed with work last week.

This is my updated list https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vZNNcY I followed @||Console|| expect the power supply and the tower, I was wondering how much power do I need? I have a question MSI RX 570 GAMING X 8GB vs GTX 1060 6GB which one would be better?

Thanks in advance and the input I been receiving.

 

[trents]

I would move up to a 500 watt PSU in that same CX line.

Good move up to the GTX 1060.

Why are you going with the AB350 instead of an X470. The AB350 will work but the X470 series was made specifically for the new Ryzen 2xxx series and may yield slightly better overclocking. Besides that, if you don't already own a first generation Ryzen you will likely not be able to boot with the 2600x. You probably will need to update the bios first to be able to recognize the 2xxx Ryzen.

Look at this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157833

 

[overjuicecheese]

Hi trents,

Thank you for the feedback, appreciated for the help. This is the current list that I going to slowly get the parts https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PT8qmq

I have a question, would a higher frequency ram help in ocing? I read something about ryzen love higher frequency ram please correct me if I am wrong.

I am thinking of getting this ram https://www.ebay.ca/itm/G-SKILL-Sni...2bc4d3:g:AbAAAOSwHBda7Ft9&rmvSB=true#shpCntId

Once again thanks in advance for any feedback and input

 

[caddi daddi]

I would like to know the make and model of your monitor.
I have found that I have a preference for msi cards over the evga cards, for me they have been quieter and longer lived.

 

[trents]

Hi trents,

Thank you for the feedback, appreciated for the help. This is the current list that I going to slowly get the parts https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PT8qmq

I have a question, would a higher frequency ram help in ocing? I read something about ryzen love higher frequency ram please correct me if I am wrong.

I am thinking of getting this ram https://www.ebay.ca/itm/G-SKILL-Sni...2bc4d3:g:AbAAAOSwHBda7Ft9&rmvSB=true#shpCntId

Once again thanks in advance for any feedback and input

Higher frequency RAM apparently can produce significant performance benefit in the Ryzen chip line. It can also be difficult to get the Ryzen CPU to work with at full RAM advertised frequency when using high speed RAM. There is no guarantee that Sniper ram would run at a full 3600 mhz. You would have a much better chance with this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313712

 

[overjuicecheese]

I would like to know the make and model of your monitor.
I have found that I have a preference for msi cards over the evga cards, for me they have been quieter and longer lived.

This is my current monitor https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824022035CVF in the long run I will upgrade my monitor to IPS.

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Higher frequency RAM apparently can produce significant performance benefit in the Ryzen chip line. It can also be difficult to get the Ryzen CPU to work with at full RAM advertised frequency when using high speed RAM. There is no guarantee that Sniper ram would run at a full 3600 mhz. You would have a much better chance with this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313712

Noted and thank you very much.

 

[caddi daddi]

will you be staying at 1080P?
what refresh rate will you be looking at?
we need to build to that.

 

[DaveB]

Higher frequency RAM apparently can produce significant performance benefit in the Ryzen chip line. It can also be difficult to get the Ryzen CPU to work with at full RAM advertised frequency when using high speed RAM. There is no guarantee that Sniper ram would run at a full 3600 mhz. You would have a much better chance with this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313712

There are other, cheaper RAM with Samsung B-Die chips such as this G.Skill RipJaws V DDR4-3200 set.

 

[overjuicecheese]

There are other, cheaper RAM with Samsung B-Die chips such as this G.Skill RipJaws V DDR4-3200 set.

May I ask what is the difference between F4-3200C14D-16GVK and F4-3200C16D-16GVKB the first time I had the list I had the F4-3200C16D-16GVKB but trents mentioned that not run at full rated speed as advertised. And I search for both parts # one is B-Die and other is D-Die.

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will you be staying at 1080P?
what refresh rate will you be looking at?
we need to build to that.

Long term will be at 1440p @ 75MHz maybe? For the refresh rate I don't know which range would be consider good, from what I thought human eye can only detect 60HZ and anything above that do not see any difference.

Thanks in advance for all the feedback

 

[trents]

B die is what you want. Absolutely. They are the ones that have the best success rate of running at full advertised speed with Ryzen CPUs.