It's hard to use optimized defautls as it will give me 90ºC most of the time, "not while gaming tho, but will still crash just it will take longer but it will" . Good thing is that it locks to 90ºC so it won't pass that no matter what I do on pc. I don't understand why setting a lower manual voltage and manual cpu clock breaks this safety lock. As I said in my post above I got a thermal shutdown while running bench tool from aida so It had to pass 105 ºC which is crazy. This behavior is nuts to say at least, I opened a ticket at AMD forums to see if I can get something. But I just think I made a big mistake by buying this CPU, I learned my lesson and I will have to do deeper review of my next CPU. I can't accept this behavior, this CPU is just crap at temps crap at auto settings, and crap for the price I payed. When I bought my fx-8350 it will run on stock just fine, out of the box. I thought I was the only one "bad luck" but AMD forum is full of tons of post with similar issues, so I think this is just garbage CPU I got. I'll switch this thread to "END" as I already took so much of your time and others. Thank you all who tried to help I really appreciate!Your PC would be a slug if it was running that slow. If you're getting the expected performance, that's clearly wrong. Don't worry about effective clock. all these values are making your head spin, lol. You should only be running one monitoring software at a time where possible. Ryzen Master is typically the most accurate compared to the others.
I believe Ryzen master and VID are one in the same. yes.
But let's think here... it's only happening in Apex, can we just consider Apex is borked until you reinstall windows on a different drive (and set the bios to optimized defaults).