[New Revised] Windows SMP2 v6.34 Install Guide

[deeppow]

Got to say the comment "- Extra paramaters: -smp X -verbosity 9 (X =< number of processors)" early in the initial post is confusing when later you say "Note: The SMP2 client (a3 core) will default to running the same number of threads as the client detects processors, if you enter -smp without any number. "

Besides the fact that in a multiple CPU environment processor does not mean either "# of cores" or "# of threads" that it can in some environment.

Why not just make the statement you make in the "Note" initially?
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[Malakai]

Thanks for the guide, glad I can finally run the SMP client without all that extra DIENO/MPICH stuff. Want to get it going as a service this time =)


So what is the verdict for using advmethods? Which is better for max pts on my PhII X4??

 

[Malakai]

Sweet, now running flawlessly as a service, and serving double duty as a space heater!! It was 28f this morning outside, and we are so tight on $$ right now that we cannot use the heat!!

 

[ChasR]

Got to say the comment "- Extra paramaters: -smp X -verbosity 9 (X =< number of processors)" early in the initial post is confusing when later you say "Note: The SMP2 client (a3 core) will default to running the same number of threads as the client detects processors, if you enter -smp without any number. "

Besides the fact that in a multiple CPU environment processor does not mean either "# of cores" or "# of threads" that it can in some environment.

Why not just make the statement you make in the "Note" initially?
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Cleaned it up. It doesn't help that FAH refers to the Program that runs the simulation as a core and the client is the SMProcessor client, not the SMCore client. I've settled on referring to them as cpu cores or FAH cores.

 

[dfonda]

Chasr, You mention 10 A3 Wu's need to be completed before receiving the Bonus. You mean the bigadv bonus correct?

Those directions are not for bigadv are they? I followed them to the letter but all I got are regular SMP.

Doesn't the -bigadv flag have to be in extra parameters to receive -bigadv Wu's? I am trying it a different way since this was not working for me. I wiped out Extra parameters, then left "Big" in Wu size and added -smp -bigadv and -verbosity 9 to my shortcut. Will I then get a bigadv or do I need to one unit, then restart the client?
Thanks

 

[Audioaficionado]

Any a3 bonus points, not just -bigadv

 

[dfonda]

Any a3 bonus points, not just -bigadv

What other bonus points are there except bigadv? I have been doing tons of A3's and never noticed a bonus.

I think the bigadv flag has to be in the extra parameters to get bigadv wu's the directions imply just choosing Big in the wu size selection is enough.

I just want to get it clarified, as I am not getting bigadv following the above ^. If there is another reason then thats what I hope to find out. As far as bonus I have done 100's of A3 wu's. Maybe close to 30 bigadv.

I have a PM into Chasr, to clarify this.

 

[Audioaficionado]

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=13160

Bruce wrote:The bonus applies after you've done 10 a2 or a3 WUs provided you have used the same passkey and the same UserName on all applicable machines and provided you meet the 80% rule.

Once that requirement has been met, the bonus currently applies to a3 WUs and to bigadv projects (at least for the time being). You can tell by looking at the last column of psummary.

 

[dfonda]

A3 wus and bigadv yes. There are no bonus's for anything other then bigadv a3 wus.

So that insinuates the "How To" is for bigadv, and if it is, I think it needs to have the bigadv flag in extra parameters, thats what I am checking on, as it stands Chas has this...- Extra parameters: -smp -verbosity 9 .

Since I am not getting any bigadv, I am questioning if -bigadv flag shouldn't be there.

Sorry if my question is confusing, my problem isn't getting bonus's I know how and why we get them. My problem is that I am not receiving any A3 bigadv Wu's and I have not been able to figure out why. If I got one, I would know through HFM whether I was doing it fast enough to get the bonus.

I'll now for sure tomorrow because I have added the bigadv flag and left "big" in wu selection.

 

[Audioaficionado]

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html

If it's got a K-factor > 1, then there are bonus points.

Look it over and see if any non -bigadv WUs have a K-factor or not.

I'm not familiar with the specific WU #s. I just fold what they send me.

Edit:

[COLOR="Red"]6701[/COLOR]	171.64.65.56	p6701_VSD in POPC and water, neutralized	28637	4.90	6.00	921.00	100	GRO-A3	Description	kasson	[COLOR="Red"]4.10[/COLOR]

Project: 6701 (Run 79, Clone 22, Gen 59) This is what I'm currently working on and my project & K-factor indicates a bonus depending on how fast I can turn it around.

 

[Outback_Jon]

A3 wus and bigadv yes. There are no bonus's for anything other then bigadv a3 wus.

You are contradicting yourself with your second sentence.

There are bonuses for A3 and bigadv units. They are not the same units. All bigadv units are A3, but not all A3 units are bigadv.

 

[dfonda]

Thanks Audio you have answered my question. The "How to" is correct the bigadv flag is not needed . Thanks

 

[ChasR]

No, i mean the regular SMP bonus, but qualification is the same in any event. You have to run 10 A3 WUs to receive either. Better to run normal ones before adding the -bigadv flag since you'll qualify much faster, You don't have a qualification issue if you've been running with a passkey. Select big as WU size and add the -bigadv flag in extra parameters and it should work. It'll work in the shortcut or extra parameters. Of course if you're running it as a service, you have to put flags in extra parameters.

Chasr, You mention 10 A3 Wu's need to be completed before receiving the Bonus. You mean the bigadv bonus correct?

Those directions are not for bigadv are they? I followed them to the letter but all I got are regular SMP.

Doesn't the -bigadv flag have to be in extra parameters to receive -bigadv Wu's? I am trying it a different way since this was not working for me. I wiped out Extra parameters, then left "Big" in Wu size and added -smp -bigadv and -verbosity 9 to my shortcut. Will I then get a bigadv or do I need to one unit, then restart the client?
Thanks

 

[dfonda]

No, i mean the regular SMP bonus, but qualification is the same in any event. You have to run 10 A3 WUs to receive either. Better to run normal ones before adding the -bigadv flag since you'll qualify much faster, You don't have a qualification issue if you've been running with a passkey. Select big as WU size and add the -bigadv flag in extra parameters and it should work. It'll work in the shortcut of extra parameters. Of course if you're running it as a service, you have to put flags in extra parameters.

Ok thanks Chasr, since the bonus was mentioned at the beginning. I mistakenly thought it was directions for bigadv.

So I followed the directions and left bigadv flag out. Finally figured out this was just Smp.

Anyway I wanted to try bigadv again to see if I could make the deadline, I restarted my client with the bigadv flag. It will pick one up I think after my regular A3 completes . Right?

 

[Outback_Jon]

Anyway I wanted to try bigadv again to see if I could make the deadline, I restarted my client with the bigadv flag. It will pick one up I think after my regular A3 completes . Right?

That is correct.

(Unless there are no -bigadv units available at the time. But I don't think there's a shortage right now.)

 

[dfonda]

That is correct.

(Unless there are no -bigadv units available at the time. But I don't think there's a shortage right now.)

Yeah thankfully I have everything set up well enough to make the deadline, picked one up just like it should have.

Sorry for being a pain last night Audio, I was having a bad night. Everything you were saying was right and true.

 

[Audioaficionado]

Yeah thankfully I have everything set up well enough to make the deadline, picked one up just like it should have.

Sorry for being a pain last night Audio, I was having a bad night. Everything you were saying was right and true.

NP

Just 'cuz I have green stars in no way means I'm an expert. When you challenged my answer, I had to do research to find those links. Now I'm not just thinkin' that a3's have bonus points because I think I remembered I read it somewhere. I know it now.

 

[Dave65]

Hey Chas for some reason it shows my name for the CPU anonymous (32) but i know I entered my name?

 

[harlam357]

Try stopping the client and rerunning with -configonly. This is what HFM is showing you and is what it found in the logs.

 

[ChasR]

Dave,
If you misconfigure the client, it will show up in the log, HFM will parse the log and find anonymous as the user name and report it. You can open client.cfg with Notetab and confirm that you have the user name correct. It also appears in the log. Harlam will correct me if I'm wrong, but if HFM can't read the log (as in you changed the FAH directory without redirecting HFM), it will draw the information from UnitInfoCache.dat in the HFM data directory.