- Jul 16, 2005
- Thread Starter
Sup buddy the new build looks great , i wish you were still local so I would get a chance to see it in person .
One thing I was thinking about is your Fans . Does that case have some type of built in PWM fan hub as your ITX board really only has 2 free headers . If it doesn't you might need to grab a Hub to power them all . Those Fans don't work properly if speed is set lower then %40 .
You'll have to come down for a visit. (I'd recommend the last week of July/beginning of August to catch the Cup Match festivities.)
I think the fans come with a y-cable so I should be able to get by with just the 2 connections on the MB. If they don't, I'll look into getting a fan hub or a y-cable.
Yes, I'd consider mATX but I don't think you want to go that way. That ITX case is 14.05" x 5.31" x 11.30" which is fairly large, but has very poor airflow that almost forces you to add that AIO water cooler. The 3700X doesn't need to be water cooled, that pricey case is making you do it. IMO the $500 price tag for the case, fans and AIO is insane. You should be able to get by with a $100 case like the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Shift Air while using the AMD cooler and apply the $275 savings to a better GPU. It is a bit larger at 18.5" x 6.7" x 10.8" but has a similar look and doesn't stack the GPU on top of the motherboard which is what suffocates the CPU HS/Fan. Here's the manufacturer's info page on it. But it is your money.
I was looking to get an AIO cooler to allow for additional cooling capacity if I decide to upgrade to a more power-hungry CPU in the future. If I was going to stick with air cooling alone, I'd go for something closer to the Sliger SM550.
I agree that the cost of the case, AIO, and fans is steep. If I wasn't looking to reasonably minimize space, I'd get any sized board, GPU, CPU, and RAM and throw it into my Thermaltake Armor.
I looked at the Evolve Shift for a long time. I like the look of the case with the glass panels, but repeatedly saw people report issues with trying to keep temps down. An AIO is needed for the CPU, but the GPU often runs hot. The Evolve Shift X allows for a larger custom loop, or two AIO loops (120 rad and 240 rad), but I'd be worried that it wouldn't last long due to being tipped over. Unfortunately, I'm not as big a fan of the mesh side panels. The mesh may not help keep the GPU cool unless you can rotate it to allow the fans to face to outside of the case. The default GPU orientation is to face the fans to the center of the case. I've seen one reviewer cut the case to allow his GPU fans to face outwards. The I/O plate's position at the top of the case (I'd only run this standing up as it looks too good to lie it flat) throws me a bit, but I'm sure I'd get over it quickly.
+1 great looking case. You can also get it with a glass panel instead if you really need the bling. You can also get airflow front panels here: https://modmymods.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=evolv+shift
Some videos about the shift and shift x
I hadn't seen those front panels yet, thank you for the link!
I already posted that before but this is my ITX with Ryzen and 1660Ti:
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CPU: [email protected] + Noctua U12A, can be U12S with 2 fans, max temps in a closed case with AVX ~86°C
Case: Raijintek Metis Plus, costs ~$65 link they have also something like this but I think that Sliger has a better design - link
RAM: 16GB Dominator Plat RGB but can be anything 16GB or more if it's required ~$100+
GFX card: MSI GTX1660Ti OC - ~$275 but EVGA should fit too and short 2060 also but I don't recommend more than ~130W cards in ITX cases or they get noisy or throttle
PSU: Enermax 650W SFX ... can be any SFX like Corsair SF600 is great and runs passive up to 50%+ load ... SFX saves space and is lighter than ATX
Mobo: there is ASUS CH8 Impact but can be any ITX/DTX mobo
It's just an example of what I made.
To run higher wattage graphics card without noise or overheating you need a larger case like mATX or something with good airflow next to the GFX card. That vented Sliger case looks great but most others in ITX format will cause issues.
My experience with the Evolv Shift ... big, problems with reasonable coolers, bad airflow, every 130W+ graphics card is noisy.
Btw. AMD stock cooler can't even handle 3k Ryzens at stock without throttling. It causes the CPU to hit 95°C and throttle down but the user can't see how the CPU clock drops.
Thanks for the pic, build specs, and case links! Are the max temps for the CPU obtained with a stress test or when gaming?
I think that with both upper and lower fans set to exhaust along with a vented panel on the GPU side, I can expect GFU temperatures close to what I would see on a bench/open air.
I think I'm going to go for the 5700XT over the 2060 Super. The lower power consumption definitely made it tempting. Several things pushed me onto that side among which includes the need for a "fruit-based" OS boot. Recent reports make it look like it will have native 5700XT drivers. (As a tech, I'm usually the go-to in the family for questions regarding that OS. I need to keep somewhat up-to-date on features and be able to provide offline backups.)
I'm still on the fence about the backup drive, but need to pull the trigger on the order soon. I'll most likely make a last-minute decision.
Thanks for the input guys, it's appreciated!