New to H20. Parts help plz

[b60khansen]

Hello, I've been wanting to do water cooling for a very long time now (but lacked the funds) and now that money no longer a problem, I've decided to give it a go. I already have most of the parts except for the water cooling components. I'd like to get some advice from those who already possess the knowledge and skills before proceeding to purchase. I'll go ahead and break it down.

CPU: 8700k (delidded)
MB: ASUS Maximus Hero X (wifi)
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB, DDR4 4133 CL17
GPU1: EVGA 1080 Ti Black Edition (6393)
GPU2: EVGA 1080 Ti Black Edition (6393)
PSU: Corsair HX1000W
M.2: x2 Samsung 250GB M.2 PCIe NVMe 960 EVO
HDD: x2 Toshiba N300 4TB
CASE: Thermaltake Tower 900

H20 components

FANS: x13 Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm PWM
PUMP: x2 EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM (incl. sl. pump)
RAD: EK-CoolStream CE 560 (Quad)
CPU Block: EK-FB ASUS M9H Monoblock - Nickel+Acetal
GPU Block: EK-FC GeForce GTX FE - Nickel
GPU Backplate: EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Backplate - Black
SLI Bridge: EK-FC Terminal X2 3-slot - Plexi (Parallel)
FITTINGS: EK-HDC Fitting 12mm G1/4 - Black
PIPE: EK-HD PETG Tube 10/12mm 500mm (2pcs)
FLUID: Koolance 702 UV Blue

My Thoughts: I plan on installing a 5" LCD screen where the front HDD cage is at. However, I'd most likely have to move the HDD's to the back taking up radiator space where I had planned on putting a second 560/480mm radiator. I know it's a complete overkill setup, but money isn't a concern and I'm OCD when it comes to things like one side having a bigger radiator than the other (was thinking of putting a 280mm under the HDD cages). I decided not to go with a dual loop setupbecause from what I've read I'll get a better flow rate with two pumps not to mention redundancy if one pump fails. Thanks in advance for any comments, opinions, or criticisms.

 

[EarthDog]

First thing I notice...... you are short cooling capacity. You have 500W to cool with the GPUs at stock, then add the CPU at stock... and this doesn't include overclocking nor the VRM). I would have at least 5x120mm worth of radiator for good temps and quiet operation.

You running 4K using 2 1080Tis?


EDIT: Or does "(quad)" mean four of those radiators???????? You have "x 2" in other places so I am not sure what that means........

 

[b60khansen]

Are you sure a single 560mm radiator won't provide enough cooling capacity? I heard that rule of thumb is 120mm radiator per device you are cooling or 140mm per device if overclocking. That comes out to 420mm of radiator space needed. The quad portion just means quad 140mm fans I believe. Here is a direct link to the radiator. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-coolstream-ce-560-quad I can always go with two 560mm radiators. It looks like the case could support it by physically looking at it, but on the website it says 560mm left side and 480mm right side? So I'm not sure if two 560mm will actually fit. I am running both 2k and 4k with my 1080 Ti's + VR.

 

[Lochekey]

That was an old rule of thumb when devices had a low TDP. The new rule of thumb is 120mm of Rad per 100 watts of TDP. As ED said you have 500 watts of TDP with the 2 x 1080tis and another 90-100 watts of TDP with the CPU. This is giving you a total dissipation of 600W meaning you should have 6 x 120mm of rads in my opinion. As far as 120 vs 140 rads I rate them similarly because typically the 140 rads disspiate about teh same as a 120 rad due to lower fan speeds on a 140mm fan.

 

[b60khansen]

Thanks for the rule of thumb update. I think I'll go ahead with two 560mm or 480mm radiators (1120W vs 960W dissipation). What I find confusing about this case is that both sides are exactly the same for radiator clearance (visually), but in the manual it says this.

Left side = 1 x 480mm radiator
right side = 1 x 560mm radiator

Also would it be better to mount the radiators with the inlet/outlet on top or bottom? I would think it would be better to have them on the bottom when draining the loop, or does it not make a difference? Which I suppose would lead to another question on loop setup.

I.E. PUMP_1 > RAD_1 > GPU_1 > GPU_2 > PUMP2 > RAD_2 > CPU

 

[EarthDog]

I prefer the bottom for less chance of air getting in the loop.

So long as tbe res is before the pump, loop order doesn't really matter. Temps in a loop vary only a degree or 2 C believe it or not.


Have a quick read of our guide. You have a lot of the basics, but it can cover a bit more.

 

[Lochekey]

In your case component order will really not matter since the reservoirs are mounted to the pumps. My suggestion is just set it up so that the tubing looks good and is easy to route.

As for the setup of the radiators for drainage, you will have to get input from others as I just tear my loops completely down to clean and flush.

 

[b60khansen]

Well, everything has been purchased. Wish me luck!

I. PC Components:

$230 (x1) Thermaltake Tower 900 Black Edition
$375 (x1) Core i7-8700K Processor
$15 (x1) Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Grease Paste - 1.0 Gram
$260 (x1) ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC)
$359 (x1) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4133 CL17
$220 (x1) Corsair HX1000W
$278 (x2) Toshiba N300 4TB
$286 (x2) Samsung 250GB M.2 PCIe NVMe 960 EVO
$1440 (x2) EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING
TOTAL = $3463

II. Case Mods:

$52 (x1) Gigabyte Extended VR Front Panel Video Converter
$80 (x2) CableMod WideBeam Magnetic Hybrid LED Kit (60cm)
$70 (x1) Thermaltake Pacific DIY ID OD 12mm Water Cooling PETG Hard Tube Bending Kit CL-W153-AL00BU-A
$37 (x1) Elecrow RPA05010R HDMI 5-Inch 800x480 TFT LCD Display
$10 (x1) Waveshare High Quality Bicolor LCD bracket
$29 (x4) castorsunlimited (38mm Plate Fixing) 30mm Black Soft Wheel Castor with Choice of Stem
$24 (x2) SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04)
$549 (x21) be quiet! BL071 SILENTWINGS 3 PWM 140mm HIGH SPEED 1600RPM 77.57CFM 28.1DBA Cooling Fan
$6 (x1) UGREEN 2 Pack HDMI Adapter Right Angle 90 Degree Gold Plated
$7 (x1) AmazonBasics High-Speed Male to Female HDMI Extension Cable - 3 Feet
TOTAL = $863

III. Water Cooling Components:

$246 (x2) EK-CoolStream CE 560
$348 (x2) EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM (incl. sl. pump)
$137 (x1) EK-FB ASUS M9H Monoblock - Nickel+Acetal
$3 (x2) EK-ATX Bridging Plug (24 pin)
$251 (x2) EK-FC GeForce GTX FE - Nickel
$33 (x1) EK-FC Terminal X2 3-slot - Plexi
$88 (x2) EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Backplate - Nickel
$61 (x3) Koolance 702 Liquid Coolant, High-Performance, UV Blue, 700ml (24 fl oz)
TOTAL = $1261.00

IV. Tubing and Fittings:

$30 (x10) BITSPOWER NON CHAMFER PETG 12MM OD TUBE LENGTH 500MM
$4 (x1) BITSPOWER PREMIUM G1/4" HIGH FLOW 1/4" FITTING - BLACK SPARKLE FINISH
$8 (x1) BITSPOWER SILVER SHINING T-BLOCK WITH TRIPLE IG1/4"
$2 (x1) XSPC G1/4" 5MM MALE TO MALE FITTING - CHROME FINISH
$2 (x1) XSPC G1/4" 5MM MALE TO MALE FITTING - MATTE BLACK FINISH
$10 (x1) XSPC BALL VALVE - CHROME
$88 (x8) BITSPOWER BP-WTP-C47 G1/4" SILVER SHINING MULTI-LINK ADAPTER- SET OF 2
TOTAL = $178

GRAND TOTAL = $5764

 

[GTXJackBauer]

to OCFs!

On the first post here, you went from asking a gazillion questions to purchasing a tall order. Slow down! LOL You don't sound prepared. Read up on the basics and watch some videos. Have you researched how your case handles things or blueprinted how you want your loop to look? Theme, etc.?

Well regardless, show us some pics when all is said and done.

 

[b60khansen]

to OCFs!

On the first post here, you went from asking a gazillion questions to purchasing a tall order. Slow down! LOL You don't sound prepared. Read up on the basics and watch some videos. Have you researched how your case handles things or blueprinted how you want your loop to look? Theme, etc.?

Well regardless, show us some pics when all is said and done.

Thanks for welcoming me. I decided to do a new build and basically just taking the 1080 Ti's out of my current machine because they are overheating under load. I've definitely done my research into water cooling and I can indeed fit two 560mm radiators in that case. As for a theme I'm going to keep things simple within a single loop using Koolance 702 UB blue coolant with chrome/nickle fittings/gpu backplate, and have two uv/rbg hybrid light strips. The blue/purple combo has kind of grown on me so I think I'll do that for color a scheme.

Current Rig (1 of 3 machines):

- CASE: Fractal Design R5, $100
- PSU: Corsair HX1000W, $220
- MB: ASUS ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING, $140
- RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series (4x4GB) DDR4 3200 MHz, $219
- CPU: i7-7700k @ 5GHz (Delidded using RockIT 88) Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut $340 + $40 + $32
- COOLING: Scythe Mugen 5 (push/pull), $52
- FANS: Fractal Design Venturi HF-14, $20
- FANS: x2 Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM, $19/ea
- GPU: x2 EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition (SLI), $1500
- M.2: x2 Samsung 250GB M.2 PCIe NVMe 960 EVO, MZ-V6E250BW (RAID 0, 3357 MB/s RD, 2337 MB/s WR), $286
- HDD: x2 Toshiba N300 4TB, $278
- System Total = $3265

- HDD: x1 Toshiba HDWD120 2TB, $70
- Monitor 1: Dell 27" S2716DG (2560 x 1440, 144Hz, gsync), $600
- Monitor 2: Sharp LC-43N6100U 43" 4K Ultra HD 2160p 60Hz, $250
- Monitor 3: LG C7 "55, $1700
- VR: Oculus Rift VR Headset, $400
- Headset 1: Hyper X Cloud II, $70
- Headset 2: Hyper X Cloud Flight, $150
- Mouse: Razer ABYSSUS V2, $42
- Keyboard: CORSAIR STRAFE RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, $120
- Speaker: VIZIO SB2820N-E0 Sound Bar $50
- Grand Total = $6654

- HWBOT: http://hwbot.org/user/ghettochild_2600/
- XTU Profiles: http://hwbot.org/user/ghettochild_2600/#XTU_Profiles
- User Benchmark: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3833233

Here's a pictures of my current rig. I've since moved from the Fractal Design C-TG back into my R5 due to thermals being an issue, and installed a high performance SLI bridge, upgraded to a 1000W PSU since this was taken.

 

[GTXJackBauer]

The TT 900 is a nice tower. It should all come together nicely with enough cooling to throw anything at it.

I also like the blue/purple theme's as well. My rig's RBGs are based on water temp's from blue being cool to red being the warmest. I usually get a mix of blue/purple since my liquid stay's in the mid of the liquid range I have set.