Normal voltages for 7600x ? pls help

[Wanted1]

Hi pls help me!
yesterday I bought
7600x
Asus b650 tuf plus wifi
Trident Z5 RGB 6400 CL32
deepcool le520

I'm a beginner so I did what friends advised me....

first thing I did was updating bios TUF-GAMING-B650-PLUS-WIFI-ASUS-3024.zip and then I used DOCP II and 6000 ( I heard I should use 6000 for ryzen 7600x and DOCP II is better than DOCP I - I couldn't find a good expo amd ram so I bought a good intel xmp ram that I could find!)
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and then I started to use my PC and everything was great but my friend told me it seems the voltages are not correct!(+cpu fans were loud and I lowered them and restarting PC was taking so long)
so I did these things:

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Then I saw this on the internet
""The VDDIO is high, typically 1.25 is recommended if you are OCing""

so I lowered CPU VDDIO \MC voltage to 1.25

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and results are now like this:
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now my friend tells me that my Vcore is high and I should lower CPU core voltage in bios! is he right? is my vcore high? ( is there any difference between vcore in hwinfo and CPU core voltage in bios? sorry for stupid questions!!!)

is everything 100% ok with my PC and my voltages(vcore - soc voltage - CPU VDDIO \MC voltage and etc)?????if not what changes should I do?
pls tell me the normal voltages for each one of these in hwinfo for 7600x

lowering some voltages is safe right? i didn't not increase anything as you saw here:

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I just lowered some voltages that seemed they are higher than safe!
can I use my current settings for years without any issues?


Pls guys answer to all of my questions, thanks

 

[Woomack]

Fans will always run at 100% as these CPUs go as high as power/thermal limits let them. Even on top AIO coolers, they spike to 90C+. To make fans quiet, you have to set fan curves manually, or set a static fan speed (depends on your setup). For me auto fan speed changes are annoying, so I set 30-50% fan speed and leave it like that. It highly depends on CPU temps and used cooler.
Leave VDDIO at auto. I don't know why anyone recommends to touch it. If you want to lower temps, set ~1.25V CPU voltage/Vcore or whatever it's called in BIOS. It's enough to make the 7600X boost to the max clock and is less than stock so the CPU will keep lower temps.
Don't touch other voltages as they do nothing or are already limited to safe values. Only be sure to have a new BIOS.

 

[Wanted1]

thanks for the reply
because I saw these comments

Re: Ryzen 7600X Voltage & ECO Mode

Let me be a bit ambiguous on my reply, but straight to the point. wrote: Yes, I am running in ECO mode to help keep power consumption down, even if only a little. Also, my 7600X will jump to 90+ watts while in ECO mode. I thought it would stay within 65W as it states in the setting. No it...

community.amd.com

"The VDDIO is high, typically 1.25 is recommended if you are OCing.."
so I lowered my VDDIO to 1.25

"enabling EXPO will increase SOC voltage but <1.3v is where you want it"
so I lowered my soc voltage to 1.2


so these are not good for me and I should set them to auto? or my current settings are ok to use for many years?

 

[Woomack]

These voltages don't matter at all for your settings and your CPU. You can set them manually like you said, or leave them at auto and it won't change anything. Auto SOC on every new BIOS is typically 1.20-1.24V. I have it up to 1.24V on Gigabyte and ASUS motherboards. 1.30V is the limit locked in every new BIOS.
Auto VDDIO depends on your RAM settings, but the motherboard may set it higher than required. It still doesn't affect temps much.

DOCP I = ASUS improved timings. DOCP II = all RAM standard timings. DOCP I is slightly faster and usually works stable. If everything works stable at DOCP I then keep it like that.

In short:
Check if you use the latest BIOS. If not then update it.
Set CPU voltage/Vcore at 1.25V.
Keep DOCP I if it's stable.

 

[Wanted1]

Thanks for help

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I pressed f5 and did these settings can you confirm I'm doing it 100% right? ( I don't know what are those twr and etc I didn't change them! i think it's because of DOCP 1 right?

what kind of test should I do ? if I have to make sure it's stable and no issue will happen In future?
I go test first descendant it uses CPU a lot!

 

[Wanted1]

Bro i love Ryzen I can't believe I have these temps!
3-4 hours of first descendant

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is everything 100% ok? all voltages are ok?(vcore - soc voltage - CPU VDDIO \MC voltage and etc) can I use my current bios settings for years without any issues ???????? or I should do more tests to know if it's 100% stable? which test?

 

[]-[itman]

Those voltages look fine but I would switch the CPU core voltage back to Auto and if you want to undervolt, do it through PBO.

 

[Wanted1]

why?

before, vcore was 1.328 now it's 1.264


if my current settings is not good for using this CPU for years tell me to change it pls

 

[]-[itman]

why?

before, vcore was 1.328 now it's 1.264


if my current settings is not good for using this CPU for years tell me to change it pls

You can do a static undervolt if you want, but you are missing out on the benefits of PBO undervolt. If you use PBO, you adjust across the whole v/f curve and you can even do a per core adjustment,

 

[EarthDog]

Yep. PBO+undervolt = win.

Please host images here so they don't disappear! It's literally as easy as drag amd drop in the reply box.

 

[Wanted1]

"Your warranty is void as soon as you boot with an AMD cpu, cause PBO isn't covered by the warranty. "

why pbo voids warranty? maybe it's not 100% safe?

I'm sorry I'm a beginner I don't know what is the difference between "You can do a static undervolt " and the things I did ? how can I do static undervolt?

I wanted to use default settings but people told me some of your voltages like vcore - soc voltage - CPU VDDIO \MC voltage are high and it's better for you to lower them... so I lowered them!

but again people told me on the internet that set CPU VDDIO \MC voltage to auto and 1.440 in hwinfo was fine so I changed it back to auto!

And now I use only these settings
soc 1.2
docp 1
core voltage 1.25
results: https://www.overclockers.com/forums/threads/normal-voltages-for-7600x-pls-help.805587/post-8213579

If these settings are ok for using my PC for years without any problem... I want to keep the current settings.... if not pls tell me to change them!(because I'm a beginner and I don't know what to do when people say do a static undervolt or etc! sorry!)

 

[Woomack]

PBO is typically the best/most optimal option (faster than stock and easy to set, not the fastest available), and it's safer than manual settings (safer if you aren't sure what to set, and what are the safe limits). However, you won't get as low (load) voltages using PBO as with manual settings (it doesn't really matter). On the other hand, if you lower voltages manually too much, then the CPU won't boost as high as at auto settings.

To make the most out of the CPU, there is a mixed-mode - different naming for each mobo brand, but it's like auto-switching between manual and PBO modes. I'm not sure if ASUS TUF supports that.
I don't recommend enabling PBO with a manually lowered voltage as it will lower the max boost clock (it will need some more manual settings).

PBO is generally recommended by AMD for automatic OC, so I doubt it causes problems with the warranty. I also haven't seen anything that would tell support if the CPU was overclocked or not. Even if, X CPUs are designed for overclocking and it's clearly said in the specs.

If you are happy with the current results then leave it like that. You can always save a user profile and try something else. If you don't like it or see some problems, you can always load your previously saved profile (last tabs in the BIOS).

 

[Wanted1]

Thanks guys for the replies. yes my CPU easily goes to 5.450 boost in a heavy CPU game like first descendant ... I'm happy with my 5.450 boost (I think this is the highest boost 7600x goes without overclock) and I also have good temps! so I'm happy with it!








I was scared that my settings in bios might hurt CPU after a few years of using these settings so I made this topic!
if my settings and voltages are ok so I keep these settings!

I played for 5-6 hours without any problems like blue screen, do I need to test Cinebench R23 or something else to see if it's 100% stable or not? if it's not 100% stable and I use it for a long time will it hurt CPU?

edit1:
can you pls confirm 1.440 cpu vddio / mc is ok?
my friend has same CPU and motherboard but with Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB 16GBx2 5600MHz CL40 DDR5 AMD EXPO Kit Memory and his cpu vddio / mc is 1.280!!!!!! ( I have Trident Z5 RGB 6400 CL32 xmp and I use it on DOCP 1 6000)

edit2:
I heard people install drivers for Ryzen CPU??? I never installed anything for my old intel 7700k for many years... what should I install for my ryzen CPU? do i need to install anything? I have 3080ti i don't care about IGPU of CPU.

 

[EarthDog]

I played for 5-6 hours without any problems like blue screen, do I need to test Cinebench R23 or something else to see if it's 100% stable or not? if it's not 100% stable and I use it for a long time will it hurt CPU?

If it's stable for how you use it... she's stable.

I heard people install drivers for Ryzen CPU??? I never installed anything for my old intel 7700k for many years... what should I install for my ryzen CPU? do i need to install anything? I have 3080ti i don't care about IGPU of CPU.

Windows does a lot of this for you. That said, your motherboards web page has the drivers. You can look and update as needed.

 

[]-[itman]

Thanks guys for the replies. yes my CPU easily goes to 5.450 boost in a heavy CPU game like first descendant ... I'm happy with my 5.450 boost (I think this is the highest boost 7600x goes without overclock) and I also have good temps! so I'm happy with it!


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I was scared that my settings in bios might hurt CPU after a few years of using these settings so I made this topic!
if my settings and voltages are ok so I keep these settings!

I played for 5-6 hours without any problems like blue screen, do I need to test Cinebench R23 or something else to see if it's 100% stable or not? if it's not 100% stable and I use it for a long time will it hurt CPU?

edit1:
can you pls confirm 1.440 cpu vddio / mc is ok?
my friend has same CPU and motherboard but with Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB 16GBx2 5600MHz CL40 DDR5 AMD EXPO Kit Memory and his cpu vddio / mc is 1.280!!!!!! ( I have Trident Z5 RGB 6400 CL32 xmp and I use it on DOCP 1 6000)

edit2:
I heard people install drivers for Ryzen CPU??? I never installed anything for my old intel 7700k for many years... what should I install for my ryzen CPU? do i need to install anything? I have 3080ti i don't care about IGPU of CPU.

I would suggest looking into core cycler and checking stability with it. Just because your games don't crash doesn't mean the CPU isn't having issues and possibly causing problems that won't appear right away. You should install the latest chipset drivers. You can find them on your motherboard's support page but I typically download them from amd.com to make sure I have the latest ones available.