Novice Nimble #10

[M@rk]

If you get an AIO you should get a decent one or it's not much better than air. 3x120mm since you plan on going the limits.

Its way too expensive for me going 360radiator.. I can bump a little to Antec's Kuhler H2O 1250 and Noctua NH-D15S..
Also maybe ill be buying stuff outside of israel cause im flying to somewhere in europe and the prices may be lower.

Update: I was looking in EKWB.com and saw that custom loops are very expensive, Is there a site where the stuff is much cheaper? I dont want to spend more than 100$ on it cause itll be more than 1/3 of my paycheck..

 

[M@rk]

Ive submitted CPU frequency.

 

[Lochekey]

M@RK, I looked at you sub and you submitted for XTU not cpu frequency.

Please follow this link to see how to submit for cpu frequency. Let me know if it does not make sense.

http://hwbot.org/news/885_application_13_rules/

 

[M@rk]

M@RK, I looked at you sub and you submitted for XTU not cpu frequency.

Please follow this link to see how to submit for cpu frequency. Let me know if it does not make sense.

http://hwbot.org/news/885_application_13_rules/

Ok thanks ill fix it now fast.

Fixed. If anything is wrong tell me and ill fix it by morning .

 

[M@rk]

Submitted a new 3DMark firestrike submission with the R9 270 overclocked

 

[Johan45]

Its way too expensive for me going 360radiator.. I can bump a little to Antec's Kuhler H2O 1250 and Noctua NH-D15S..
Also maybe ill be buying stuff outside of israel cause im flying to somewhere in europe and the prices may be lower.

Update: I was looking in EKWB.com and saw that custom loops are very expensive, Is there a site where the stuff is much cheaper? I dont want to spend more than 100$ on it cause itll be more than 1/3 of my paycheck..

If this is something that you think you're going to want to do then you're better off waiting until you can afford "good" cooling. One thing about a good loop is it'll work for everything so once you've bought it your cooling is done for a long time across many platforms. If you go and buy a decent cooler now then you'll likely "want" something better before long, you will get better OCs but still not as high as you'll want to go in another month. Just my opinion and it's totally up to you. I just think you'll be further ahead and spend less in the end.

 

[M@rk]

If this is something that you think you're going to want to do then you're better off waiting until you can afford "good" cooling. One thing about a good loop is it'll work for everything so once you've bought it your cooling is done for a long time across many platforms. If you go and buy a decent cooler now then you'll likely "want" something better before long, you will get better OCs but still not as high as you'll want to go in another month. Just my opinion and it's totally up to you. I just think you'll be further ahead and spend less in the end.

Okay.
Can you recommend a good pump+tank and such? Im a complete noob when it comes to custom loops and water cooling in general :/. I dont want to spend more than 500sheqels (130$ as of writing) cause the next time ill have money is next summer, Plus i want to save some for next summer to buy a new good GPU.
I only want to cool the CPU but i still want atleast a 360rad as you said.

 

[M@rk]

Submitted a new CPU frequency submission.

 

[Lochekey]

Like Johan said, if you plan to do this on a regular basis you do not want to do things by half measures. I understand this sometimes for not jive with our wants and our finances but sometimes it is better to just wait. I cannot tell you how many times I regret buying an I5 vs waiting and buying an I7.

I don't know what the used market is like in your area but you may be able to put a custom system together at a decent price.

If you absolutely need something now, and cannot find used components, I would go with a d14 or d15 over an aio.

 

[M@rk]

Like Johan said, if you plan to do this on a regular basis you do not want to do things by half measures. I understand this sometimes for not jive with our wants and our finances but sometimes it is better to just wait. I cannot tell you how many times I regret buying an I5 vs waiting and buying an I7.

I don't know what the used market is like in your area but you may be able to put a custom system together at a decent price.

If you absolutely need something now, and cannot find used components, I would go with a d14 or d15 over an aio.

I can wait It doesnt burn my anus right now so its all fine to wait.

 

[Lochekey]

Submitted a new CPU frequency submission.

Hey Mark,

You need to edit you recent submission. You do not need to run the built in cpuz benchmark for cup frequency you just met to validate the speed. When you submit the score you report is your processor speed. Your current sub is saying your processor is running over 8ghz.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3281965

If you are shooting for max cpu frequency turn 2 or 3 cores off it will help reduce the heat load. Also try using Windows xp if you can I find my system is more stable in xp at higher frequencies.

 

[M@rk]

Hey Mark,

You need to edit you recent submission. You do not need to run the built in cpuz benchmark for cup frequency you just met to validate the speed. When you submit the score you report is your processor speed. Your current sub is saying your processor is running over 8ghz.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3281965

If you are shooting for max cpu frequency turn 2 or 3 cores off it will help reduce the heat load. Also try using Windows xp if you can I find my system is more stable in xp at higher frequencies.

Fixed, Though idk what is benchmark score means, Is it the numbers i get when i benchmark it with CPU-Z or its just the MHz i reached?
And thanks for the tip!

Edit: Ill delete the submission and resubmit cause it doesnt update :/
Edit#2: Done.

 

[Lochekey]

You don't need to run the cpu z benchmark. When you pull up cpu z, use the validate button on the lower right to validate your cpu speed. The score you enter is the speed in mhz that your cpu is running.

For an example your most recent sub should be reported as 4500mhz.

 

[M@rk]

You don't need to run the cpu z benchmark. When you pull up cpu z, use the validate button on the lower right to validate your cpu speed. The score you enter is the speed in mhz that your cpu is running.

For an example your most recent sub should be reported as 4500mhz.

Ok thanks!, Also is switching off 3 cores is allowed in the competition? If it is ill switch 2 or 3 off and try to OC the hell out of the single core that is running.

 

[Lochekey]

Yes it is legal, sometimes it is better to only turn off 2 instead of 3 but you will have to play around and see what runs better for you.

 

[M@rk]

Yes it is legal, sometimes it is better to only turn off 2 instead of 3 but you will have to play around and see what runs better for you.

Thanks
Ill try turning off 2 cores and get 5GHz, is this how people in the competition got these crazy scores?
Or they are just using 8core 16threads CPUs lol.

Also how does it affect CPU voltage? Does it even effect it?

 

[Lochekey]

Thanks
Ill try turning off 2 cores and get 5GHz, is this how people in the competition got these crazy scores?
Or they are just using 8core 16threads CPUs lol.

Also how does it affect CPU voltage? Does it even effect it?

This trick only works for benchmarks that are not utilizing more than one or 2 cores. So for something like cinebench this will actually hurt your score. For superpi which is single threaded it will allow you to push maybe 100mhz extra. It really will depend program to program. The crazy high processor speeds normally will rely on this tweak whereas the really high cinebench scores rely on a 8 or 10 core cpu pushed to around 5ghz.

 

[M@rk]

This trick only works for benchmarks that are not utilizing more than one or 2 cores. So for something like cinebench this will actually hurt your score. For superpi which is single threaded it will allow you to push maybe 100mhz extra. It really will depend program to program. The crazy high processor speeds normally will rely on this tweak whereas the really high cinebench scores rely on a 8 or 10 core cpu pushed to around 5ghz.

So its good for CPU frequency right?

 

[Lochekey]

correct for the cpu frequency benchmark you are not really putting a load on on the cpu so you just need to get it going as fast as possible. So normally you will cut cores, disable hyperthreading, reduce memory speeds, and kill all processes that you can. So basically you want to lean out your system as much as possible so you can push the cpu frequency without having it really do anything.

 

[M@rk]

correct for the cpu frequency benchmark you are not really putting a load on on the cpu so you just need to get it going as fast as possible. So normally you will cut cores, disable hyperthreading, reduce memory speeds, and kill all processes that you can. So basically you want to lean out your system as much as possible so you can push the cpu frequency without having it really do anything.

Okay, Ill do it tonight maybe, When are you going to submit other stages?