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Bombardier

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Hello guys.... its my first post here..i think i found the best site for learning. and involving.. well i rcently took a GPU(nvidia geforce GTX560 gainward) that was in use from another guy.... i put th card to cumputer and i started to play some games... like league of legends... at the start my fps are 350 400 and after a couple a minutes goes to 250 300 170 100 or lower... and i was thinking to overclock the card so i can play a little better... what would be safe for this card.... can anyone help me to solve the problem?
 

ssjwizard

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What CPU and memory do you have?
What resolution is your monitor?
What graphic settings are you using?

There is no such thing as "safe" overclocking, but it can be done carefully and within reason will not significantly reduce the lifespan of the card.

You are going to need a GPU overclocking tool. I personally prefer EVGA Precision X, but there are other apps out there that will work with that card.

I also recommend getting HWMonitor to watch temperatures, but technically Precision X can do this for you.
 

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Hello guys.... its my first post here..i think i found the best site for learning. and involving.. well i rcently took a GPU(nvidia geforce GTX560 gainward) that was in use from another guy.... i put th card to cumputer and i started to play some games... like league of legends... at the start my fps are 350 400 and after a couple a minutes goes to 250 300 170 100 or lower... and i was thinking to overclock the card so i can play a little better... what would be safe for this card.... can anyone help me to solve the problem?

Hi Bomb,

Welcome to the forms! :)

Those frame rates are very irregular, I would actually start with checking the temps on that card before attempting any overclocking.

To have such a wide variance in frame rates generally means you card is throttling due to high temperatures.

Download a trial copy of AIDA64 and use its stress GPU tool to see if it is indeed throttling.

-TC
 

ssjwizard

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I used to be a regular LOLer and ~100FPS with that particular GPU sounds about right, but that depends on what settings hes using. I play at 1200P with max settings, so that will effect the final outcome. The game always starts at very high frame rate because there are less models in play, and no spell effects going on.
 
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hello bro.... i got an intel i3-6100,,, ny monitor resolution is 1680-1050...i am using normal settings in the game

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ok bro thanks i will reply back :)
 
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Bombardier

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the temps of the card are 60 degrees when is in usage... but the person tha i bought it..he said that it goes 80 90 degrees but its not problem... it is made like that from the factory he said... i will test it again in game and i will reply...
 

Theocnoob

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Define in usage. If you're checking after you exit out of a game, the chip will cool rapidly. You need to log temps in game after the game has been running for several minutes. HWMonitor will tell you your current, lowest, and highest temp for your GPU (since the program has been running)

Is the card dirty? What computer case and case fans do you have? Is the fan working on the 560?

BTW this may be a stupid question- are the parts of the game where you get 300FPS in menus and splash screens and then actual GAMEPLAY is 100FPS? It's normal to get more frames in splash screens.
 
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Bombardier

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the card its not dirty...the fans are working good.. 2 weeks ago i put a thermal paste.... when i start the game is 450 350... but in the middle game the fps is goin to 160 200 and lower... well as i saw... the hwmonitor shows that the temp of the card is about to 65 as i play..
 

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Ya but... what do you mean by "when you start the game"? You mean the opening screens or actual gameplay? Sorry I just want this to be clear for me and other people who may be trying to help! :D

Also tell us more about this thermal paste. Are you sure you put the card back together properly? What paste, how much, and how did you apply it?

Was there any damage to thermal pads on other components and/or did you remove said thermal pads?
 
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Bombardier

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damn xD... the thermal paste waas put by the owner of the card i dont now any details..well when i load from the loading screen to the game i got high ping... thats what i mean... after the 7 8 minute the ping is reduced rapidly.. i mean gamplay... i am sorry bro for not explaing correct
 

Theocnoob

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Ok now I'm REEALY confused... :-/

PING is related to your networking solution, modem, router, location in the world relative to the server in question, etc.

I think you really need to read up on what terms you should be using when you describe your problem because all you're doing is confusing people at this point. No offense or anything.

I'm too confused to help you at this point. You're not answering my questions and your questions are confusing me (And I assume, everyone else) to the extreme...

Sorry man. Can't get help like this. You need to do some reading so you can help us help you. Otherwise I don't see this getting resolved (if there is in fact a problem).
 
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Bombardier

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i dont know why this is so hard to be understantable... sorry for my previous message... i wanted to say ( fps ) and not ( ping )... the problem is that i want to overclock my card... and i am askiming if its safe...and i am explaining that the card has fps drops while i play.. i start with 350 400 fps at the first minute of the game and after soe minutes it goes below 200.. if this is clear or not text me back .. i am sorry that you are confused bro :(
 

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Are the parts of the game where it slows down really busy parts? Like do you start the game with just your guy on screen and then when it slows down theres a bunch of other enemies and what not on screen? I don't know what could be going on if your GPU isn't overheating.
 

ssjwizard

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i dont know why this is so hard to be understantable... sorry for my previous message... i wanted to say ( fps ) and not ( ping )... the problem is that i want to overclock my card... and i am askiming if its safe...and i am explaining that the card has fps drops while i play.. i start with 350 400 fps at the first minute of the game and after soe minutes it goes below 200.. if this is clear or not text me back .. i am sorry that you are confused bro :(

100-150FPS is normal for your GPU. Read this very carefully please. I LoL the game map launches with no minions, no spell effects, no lighting effects, a very simple raw map to render at any resolution to allow for players to get their pregame setup going, and to allow for all clients to synch to the server. As the game progresses more and more character models get added into the scene. Players as they gain more levels are more frequently casing more spells. In short the longer the match goes the more rendering elements are added to the scene which will in turn reduce the FPS of the game. Also these effects TAX your CPU harder as well.

Also in the very first reply I asked you several questions that would help me to better understand your machine and how to best advise you.

Needless to say if your GPU is stable around 65C, there is no troubleshooting to do here.
 

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100-150FPS is normal for your GPU. Read this very carefully please. I LoL the game map launches with no minions, no spell effects, no lighting effects, a very simple raw map to render at any resolution to allow for players to get their pregame setup going, and to allow for all clients to synch to the server. As the game progresses more and more character models get added into the scene. Players as they gain more levels are more frequently casing more spells. In short the longer the match goes the more rendering elements are added to the scene which will in turn reduce the FPS of the game. Also these effects TAX your CPU harder as well.

Also in the very first reply I asked you several questions that would help me to better understand your machine and how to best advise you.

Needless to say if your GPU is stable around 65C, there is no troubleshooting to do here.

My theory on what is going on here is very much in-line with yours, sir. :eek:
 
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Bombardier

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100-150FPS is normal for your GPU. Read this very carefully please. I LoL the game map launches with no minions, no spell effects, no lighting effects, a very simple raw map to render at any resolution to allow for players to get their pregame setup going, and to allow for all clients to synch to the server. As the game progresses more and more character models get added into the scene. Players as they gain more levels are more frequently casing more spells. In short the longer the match goes the more rendering elements are added to the scene which will in turn reduce the FPS of the game. Also these effects TAX your CPU harder as well.

Also in the very first reply I asked you several questions that would help me to better understand your machine and how to best advise you.

Needless to say if your GPU is stable around 65C, there is no troubleshooting to do here.

bro my cpu its intel i3-6100.. 8gb ram...my screen resolution its 1680-1050 and i play the game at normal graphics... i understood your theory and its true.. as the game get more spells characters team fights thats when i got the fps drops and my gpu its stressing... 65 degrees its the temps of my card... but can i overclock it? or no need?.. it is not that much prob the fps drops.. but i just want it better...so i can play to high graphics..thanks for helping me guys... i appreciate that :)
 

ssjwizard

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I would also check the CPU usage during the slowdown.

The i3 doesn't have alot of overclocking options, but first things first lets chase down the bottleneck.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread your going to want to get some monitoring software to keep an eye on stuff. My suggestion with GPU overclocking is download a couple of heavy duty benchmarks theres a bunch. Really any will do as long its a modern DX10-11 benchmark. Up your GPU 20-50Mhz and stress it for maybe 10 mins or so. Watch for temp spikes, graphic artifacting, and of course any sort of crash. If it passes bump it up a little bit more. The Fermi series GPUs OC well and like alot of voltage, but they will get hot an loud in a hurry, so keep an eye on it.
 

wagex

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that's normal for that game, when you start getting into team battles and stuff like that all the extra textures and graphics going on start to use more gpu, i havent played in a while but i remember id go from 500+fps to a hundred or 2 when in team battles and stuff.

iirc it doesnt even fully utilize the gpu to get 500fps, like 30% usage its not a demanding game at all you can play it fine with intel's onboard graphics most of the time


also run hwmonitor in the background before you even load up the game it will keep track of the highest temps and lowest temps through the entire gaming session after about an hour of playing then post a screenshot of hwmonitor showing cpu and gpu temps.
 

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Is your desire to overclock driven by in-game stuttering, or are you just bummed to see the FPS drop over the course of your game? Typically, as long as your FPS isn't dropping below your monitors refresh rate (60fps in most cases) then you won't see any perceivable improvement beyond that. If your game does stutter at times, turning on Vsync may give the CPU some overhead needed for the most intensive moments in the game.