Nvidia Launching New Hardware to Coincide with Crysis Release

[jivetrky]

Is the 8800GT the card that is just like the GTS only with some more pipes opened up? Or is that something else?

 

[JH258]

The 8800 GT comes in right below the 8800 GTS. The GT has either 256 MB or 512 MB of ram, while the GTS has 320MB or 640MB. Also the GT will have 96 stream processors like the current GTS and the GTS is going to be bumped up to 112 Stream processors.

 

[ViperJohn]

The 8800 GT comes in right below the 8800 GTS. The GT has either 256 MB or 512 MB of ram, while the GTS has 320MB or 640MB. Also the GT will have 96 stream processors like the current GTS and the GTS is going to be bumped up to 112 Stream processors.

Close. The 96 SP GT replaces the problem child 96 SP 320mb GTS is now out of production. The improved
640mb GTS gets bumped up to 112 SP's to open the speed spread up between it and the new GT.

Viper

 

[JH258]

Well, I learned something new, so the 320 MB GTS is going out of production?

 

[ViperJohn]

Well, I learned something new, so the 320 MB GTS is going out of production?

It is already out of production.

Viper

 

[atm743]

ahh cool cool

i was going to wait for something to come out in november.

im about to replace my 7900 gt ko superclocked but im afraid that if i get a 8800gtx in a month or two a new card will be put out by nvidia.

Viper have you played the crysis beta on your gtx or ultra yet??

 

[ViperJohn]

ahh cool cool

i was going to wait for something to come out in november.

im about to replace my 7900 gt ko superclocked but im afraid that if i get a 8800gtx in a month or two a new card will be put out by nvidia.

Viper have you played the Crysis beta on your gtx or ultra yet??

Negative on the Crysis Demo. CoJ DX10 and BioShock DX10 are great with an 8800GTX even at stock
clocks. That is at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy cranked up. You just need some system horsepower
behind the card (any card for that matter).

Viper

 

[VinnyTAMU]

Close. The 96 SP GT replaces the problem child 96 SP 320mb GTS is now out of production. The improved
640mb GTS gets bumped up to 112 SP's to open the speed spread up between it and the new GT.

Viper

Any word on when the 112 SP 8800GTS 620mb cards will be hitting the market, and how we (the consumer) will be able to tell them apart from the older model (before purchasing)?

 

[atm743]

Negative on the Crysis Demo. CoJ DX10 and BioShock DX10 are great with an 8800GTX even at stock
clocks. That is at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy cranked up. You just need some system horsepower
behind the card (any card for that matter).

Viper

o man thats perfect. i run at 1680X1050. man cant wait to get a 8800gtx i have been IN LOVE with the crysis beta but my card BARLY runs it. if i had more video ram i bet it would not stutter but even more ram it still wont get to playable fps's

thanks

one more question

how much more performance did you get over the gtx with the ultra?

not sure if i should save up for the ultra or just get the gtx

 

[ViperJohn]

Any word on when the 112 SP 8800GTS 620mb cards will be hitting the market, and how we (the consumer) will be able to tell them apart from the older model (before purchasing)?

Same time as the GT or sooner I think. It is kinda a silent change on the GTS and have absolutely know idea how you would tell them apart except by looking at the specs on the box.

Viper

 

[ViperJohn]

o man thats perfect. i run at 1680X1050. man cant wait to get a 8800gtx i have been IN LOVE with the crysis beta but my card BARLY runs it. if i had more video ram i bet it would not stutter but even more ram it still wont get to playable fps's

thanks

one more question

how much more performance did you get over the gtx with the ultra?

not sure if i should save up for the ultra or just get the gtx

A typical Ultra will OC a lot higher than a typical GTX right out of the box. The average GTX will OC
to around 621-648 ROP x 1458 Shader / 972 memory good and stable. Some will do a little more of course.
I haven't seen an Ultra yet that wouldn't do 675 ROP x 1620-1674 shader and 1152 memory right out of the
box. Many will run a shader clock in the 1700's stone stock.

Your sig shows an AMD X2 and that will definitely kill you in the benchmarks. It may very well hurt you Crysis
and DX10 too as they are fairly CPU intensive. All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

 

[atm743]

A typical Ultra will OC a lot higher than a typical GTX right out of the box. The average GTX will OC
to around 621-648 ROP x 1458 Shader / 972 memory good and stable. Some will do a little more of course.
I haven't seen an Ultra yet that wouldn't do 675 ROP x 1620-1674 shader and 1152 memory right out of the
box. Many will run a shader clock in the 1700's stone stock.

Your sig shows an AMD X2 and that will definitely kill you in the benchmarks. It may very well hurt you Crysis
and DX10 too as they are fairly CPU intensive. All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

i plan on getting rid of the amd want to wait for phenom to come out but i doubt that wont be anything near a c2d and besides intel will have their 45nm chips out in January i hear so i guess i can just get the card now then wait to upgrade the cpu and mobo till the 45nm chips and the 2.0 pci express mobo's come out

 

[Jetster220]

i plan on getting rid of the amd want to wait for phenom to come out but i doubt that wont be anything near a c2d and besides intel will have their 45nm chips out in January i hear so i guess i can just get the card now then wait to upgrade the cpu and mobo till the 45nm chips and the 2.0 pci express mobo's come out

In the mean time, you should be able to get some more steam outta that 4200+. Check my sig, I have mine running at 2.76GHz

 

[atm743]

In the mean time, you should be able to get some more steam outta that 4200+. Check my sig, I have mine running at 2.76GHz

mines newer to being how yours is 939 and mine is AM2

i the cpu will hold up for now. its not that bad. it would help in games like crysis (once its out) and other games that i will probably want to play (UTIII) but yeah

for now it will do

 

[Jotosuds]

All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

 

[atm743]

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

i would get the E6850 3.0 ghz stock dual core. and its allows ddr3 ram and 1333fsb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

the q6700 dosen't

plus not allot of programs and games support quad core. now if you were mainly a video editor or do allot of things like that then the quad core is the way to go.

if you are going to play crysis be sure that the video ram is at least 640mb being how thats the Recommended amount of video ram Crytek said that you would need. plus if you want to play with anti aliasing at 4x you will be using all the video ram that you have.

i would get that 8800gts with the 112 stream processors and 640mb of ram

 

[ViperJohn]

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

Probably not at stock clocks. No stock CPU will really cause frame rates are more than just the GFX
card. The FPU's in the CPU(s) are crunching massive amounts of numbers in these new games.

If I remember right the Q6700 is a G0 stepping. Slap a good cooler on it and you will probably get
3.3 to 3.4Ghz out of it at stock CPU Vcore. 3.5-3.6 with a slight bump up in the Vcore. There is a world
of difference between a 2.6Ghz CPU and a 3.4Ghz CPU lol.

Honestly can't say what kind of GPU power Crysis will ultimately take since it isn't out yet lol. It has to
be at least playable on mid range hardware since that is by far what most people have and CryTek
knows it.

Viper

 

[Hazaro]

Probably not at stock clocks. No stock CPU will really cause frame rates are more than just the GFX
card. The FPU's in the CPU(s) are crunching massive amounts of numbers in these new games.

If I remember right the Q6700 is a G0 stepping. Slap a good cooler on it and you will probably get
3.3 to 3.4Ghz out of it at stock CPU Vcore. 3.5-3.6 with a slight bump up in the Vcore. There is a world
of difference between a 2.6Ghz CPU and a 3.4Ghz CPU lol.

Honestly can't say what kind of GPU power Crysis will ultimately take since it isn't out yet lol. It has to
be at least playable on mid range hardware since that is by far what most people have and CryTek
knows it.

Viper

Agreed

 

[ViperJohn]

i would get the E6850 3.0 ghz stock dual core. and its allows ddr3 ram and 1333fsb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

the q6700 dosen't

plus not allot of programs and games support quad core. now if you were mainly a video editor or do allot of things like that then the quad core is the way to go.

if you are going to play crysis be sure that the video ram is at least 640mb being how thats the Recommended amount of video ram Crytek said that you would need. plus if you want to play with anti aliasing at 4x you will be using all the video ram that you have.

i would get that 8800gts with the 112 stream processors and 640mb of ram

Crysis will use Q-Cores.

The higher default FSB speed of the new CPU's is a double edged sword as the CPU that have it also have
a lower multiplier (unless you pay more money for a higher speed CPU with a higher multiplier). It is fine for
Joe SixPack that can barely find the "on" button let alone OC his rig but for us OC nut cases that lower multi
may mean your motherboard's chipset runs out of FSB OC headroom well before you ever get up to the CPU's
max OC ability. That can be particularly true if you are on water or more exotic CPU cooling solutions.

Viper

 

[MadMan007]

i know what the gtx has I had 2 of them

the new cards coming, the 8800gt, supposedly a 600/1800 with 96,112,sps, but its 512mb and 256bit. so they can go 512bit easily enuff on this core revision I would think that would be logical.....

512MB is the exact same proportion of Ram:SPs as all the other 8800s. 320MB model simply uses half-density memory chips.

Crysis will use Q-Cores.

The higher default FSB speed of the new CPU's is a double edged sword as the CPU that have it also have
a lower multiplier (unless you pay more money for a higher speed CPU with a higher multiplier). It is fine for
Joe SixPack that can barely find the "on" button let alone OC his rig but for us OC nut cases that lower multi
may mean your motherboard's chipset runs out of FSB OC headroom well before you ever get up to the CPU's
max OC ability. That can be particularly true if you are on water or more exotic CPU cooling solutions.

Viper

Sort of true but the equivalent MSRP-priced chips all have the sam multi just higher stock speeds. e6850=e6600=9x, e6750=e64x0=8x and so on, the higher FSB chips just have higher stock speeds but the same multi so you'd hit hte same chipset and mobo FSB wall at the same exact speed either way. The only catch there is street price isn't always the same for two equivalent-MSRP chips.