NVIDIA To Release A Cypto-Mining Card Based on The GP102-100 GPU

[MaddMutt]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61173/nvidia-p102-100-crypto-mining-card-5gb-gddr5x/index.html

It looks like NVIDIA isn't finished with the P102 GPU, with CryptoMining-Blog.com reporting on a tip that the NVIDIA P102-100 GPU are going to be "interesting for miners" as they are similar to the P104-100 with a custom configuration on memory and increased performance for those all important hashes.



Inno3D will be manufacturing the new P102-100 mining accelerators, which will feature no video output connectors as this is a mining-specific card. The new Inno3D P102-100 will be a mighty powerful mining card, capable of 47MH/s mining Ethereum (a GTX 1080 Ti will reach around 38-40MH/s while the TITAN Xp will push 42MH/s when overclocked). Inno3D P102-100 specifications: GPU: P102-100 CUDA Cores: 3200 Base Clock: 1582MHz Memory Clock: 11 Gbps Physical Memory Size: 5 GB Memory Type: GDDR5X Memory Interface Width: 320-bit Memory Bandwidth: 400 GB/s Bus Support: PCIe Gen1 x4 Card Size: 21.5 cm length, 12.5 cm height, dual slot Max TDP: 250 Watt Power Connectors: 2x 8-pin PCI-E Now that we know this bad boy is on its way, my world exclusive article on questioning whether NVIDIA could unveil mining-specific GeForce GTX 2080 cards becomes much clearer. If the older P102-100 can pump out 47MH/s, imagine what a mining-focused GTX 20 series GPU could do with GDDR6.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61173/nvidia-p102-100-crypto-mining-card-5gb-gddr5x/index.html

 

[UltraTaco]

wow, I don't know how to react.
Great news!

 

[gsrcrxsi]

sounds great until reality sets in.

obtaining these cards in quantities less than orders of hundreds of them will be near impossible.

there's a GP106 and a GP104 mining card available. seen any for sale? anywhere? they pretty much only sell these cards direct to farms.

 

[UltraTaco]

What about eBay used? You know, like xeons after they ran for a few years?

 

[gsrcrxsi]

$600 for a GP106-100 (GTX 1060 eq)
$1000+ for a GP104-100 (GTX 1080 eq)

yeah... now imagine what the 102-100 will be...

 

[mackerel]

I've only seen other mining cards on offer from one store. Presumably they thought they had enough market to buy some in and resell. Lost interest quickly as I didn't like that seller anyway, and their pricing was through the roof as normal.

 

[deathman20]

Prices for the cards will be sky high... Might solve some of the problems but, if there is no supply of these cards, prices sky rocket. And no supply of these still drains on the gamer card market, means prices sky rocket as a result still.

Seems like SOL either way.

Find now that being said to bad we can't modify our own bios's to make it work like this card above. Stock speeds hitting 47.... man my 1080ti did around 32 stock and got close to 40 when OCed. Just goes to show you its all about the memory timings and Nvidia cards that are built for gaming probably have very loose timings because speed helps more and gives wider range of memory to use for a cheaper price.

 

[maxfly]

if manufacturers had even a lick of sense they would be cranking out as many variations of these mining cards as physically possible. eventually the mining craze will subside and so will their opportunity to capitalize on it.

 

[mackerel]

They can sell practically any card they make at the moment, moving into mining specific cards is a calculated risk. Sticking to gaming cards is arguably safer.

 

[maxfly]

very true.

 

[Alaric]

Sticking to gaming cards is arguably safer.

Provided you don't count the ill will generated within the gaming community.

 

[mackerel]

What ill will? I'm writing from the perspective of the board makers. It is not zero time to develop a solution, even if it is not fitting a few components found on a gaming card and a custom bios. It is not zero time to get them into the hands of the buyers. At any point a crash could happen and you're left with a ton of hard to shift stock. If the AIB maker stuck purely with gaming cards, at least there'll be more of a market for them, and gamers may still have some chance to pick them up.

The question of if the mining cards will help or hinder the gaming situation depends on where the supply limit is. Is it the GPU or the ram, as both are often quoted. In this case, using less ram, it might take some supply pressure off, but if they're GPU limited, this is only taking away potential supply from gamers.

 

[gkolarov]

Time will tell best what is going to happen with all these graphic cards, crypto madness, gaming, etc.

 

[Alaric]

I just meant the overall unhappiness with the situation. The manufacturers are the least to blame, but they seem to get more than their share of finger pointing over the card shortage/price situation. I think whichever GPU maker gets closest to a solution first will engender some brand loyalty based on that, for a card generation or so anyway.

The only people I've seen blame vRAM for the shortage are miners. I think that's a non starter.

 

[deathman20]

Since right now the limiting factor that we are aware of is the VRAM shortage. These mining cards are perfect to help eliminate the issue... though sadly I don't think its going to get rid of it.
While at least the manufactures could at least build 2 cards (least these) instead of a single 1080ti to give to miners, at a high price point no doubt, and be making more money off it vs the gamer version. Should be win win for the manufactures as long as they don't over saturate the market.

 

[Alaric]

Since right now the limiting factor that we are aware of is the VRAM shortage.

I don't think non miners are buying that for one minute. Probably because it's nonsense. The card shortage/price issue is mining. It's a fairly well known problem.

 

[deathman20]

I don't think non miners are buying that for one minute. Probably because it's nonsense. The card shortage/price issue is mining. It's a fairly well known problem.

Non miners or miners alike RAM is an industry limitation right now. If its not a limitation then they are caluding (fixing the market) and inflating prices on purpose and there will be a nice lawsuit in the future. DRAM prices have been on the rise since 2016, they are almost double what they were back then if not more by now.

This is because the industry hasn't been upping their capacities and since GPU production has increase so has other things. I think PC market has been pretty stable, cell phone was still on the rise slightly, tablets I think have fallen slightly, but it hasn't been a huge market as is. Really what ever needs ram these days (IoT devices, Cars, Fridges, Watches, probably coffee makers at this rate), they most likely need some Ram. Weather its small for watches and probably a lot of IoT devices, to larger ones needed for GPU's/Computers/Servers.

 

[Alaric]

Just to clarify my thoughts, I don't think miners are any less entitled to buy GPUs than anyone else. It's a product, it's for sale. My convenience isn't what determines right and wrong for me, so I don't inflict that judgment on others. All whining aside, one group is no more "worthy" than the other, and the $ rules the marketplace. Gaming is a niche, and that's just a fact of life.

The situation is inconvenient for one group of customers, and that discomfort has extended to the other by now. Spending 3 times what a card is worth on the wager that it will pay for itself fast enough to turn a profit is a hefty bet. I'm not sure anyone but resellers and retailers are profiting above expectations in the current market. The RAM makers are probably making the least from it. GPU card makers are buying in quantities that likely net them much better pricing than we see.

 

[wingman99]

When will these cards be on shelves for sale?

 

[gsrcrxsi]

When will these cards be on shelves for sale?

probably never on a card by card basis from a retailer.

if you want one, you'll need a business and capital to buy 100+ from the factory. same situation with the 104 cards.

someone might do a group buy, but there will likely still be qty minimums. and no guarantee that more group buys would happen.