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OCZ Glad w/ Delta - same temp as FOP 32

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sgw

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After reading some good reviews on it (some that even had it up at the top with the swiftech MC462), i decided to pick up the OCZ Gladiator with a Delta 7K Fan to replace my FOP 32. Well, I installed the Gladiator, and after letting the computer run for about 5 mins, i was pretty surprised to see the cpu temp at 40c/104f, the exact same resting temp that my FOP 32 had (both with Arctic Silver 2). full load for 30 mins brings it up to 43/109; again, the same temp that my FOP ran at. what could warrant a copper heatsink with a 7k rpm fan doing the same job as a fop 32?

some other info: im running a tbird 800, not oc'ed. room temp is about 65-68f. my motherboard continually stays at 29c/84f. a7v mobo, 256mb pc133, msi gf2 gts pro 64.
 

compaq_ML530

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I found the same thing when switching from a Vantec w/delta to CAK38 w/delta. However even though the temperatures were the same, I gained stability at a higher core voltage than before. Check the post...the Smackdown on the CAK38.
 
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sgw

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the thing that bothers me is that the fop 32 only has a 4,500 rpm fan.. its a notable difference in cfm as well as noise level
 

Colin

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I think you will find that the FOP 32 is better than the ThermoEngine too. It's hard to beat, especially when you can buy one for under $20 at a computer show.
 

Pat

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Every system cools differently starting with what your room temp is & what CPU you are running. My system never will get the review temps unless my room temp starts out at 70*f or below. I run my Swiftech Delta on low speed most of the time for noise control. You almost have to adapt your system to your likes. I really think that most quality HSF are within 3-4*C of each others of cost.

Pat.
 
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sgw

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well, i switched the delta over to the heatsink for the FOP 32.. my resting temp has gone from 40/104 to 37/98. from what i can see, the copper heatsink that ocz has put out with their gladiator seems to be pretty shaky. ive seen reviews that put it at the top, and ive seen reviews that say its a "pretty good" heatsink. so in retrospect, im really dissapointed to see that my old fop 32 heatsink outperformed ocz's new copper heatsink. i expected a lot more from this thing.. i might have to stick with globalwin for hsfs from now on, and possibly invest in a swiftech if i save up the money :)
 

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What kind of case do u have? ur mobo temp and outside temp 84/68 suggest to me u should have more case cooling. Change the PS fan to a stronger one. Add blowholes where needed. Seal off any lil hole that u see on ur case. These cases are stamped and punched and leave notches so u must seal to create positive airflow. A HS alone won't work wonders if its not in the right cool enviroment. So u must create one out of ur box. Or buy one that is already equipped with redundant cooling. I'm lookin into that HS myself and have read good reviews.

 

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sgw (May 15, 2001 09:16 p.m.):
After reading some good reviews on it (some that even had it up at the top with the swiftech MC462), i decided to pick up the OCZ Gladiator with a Delta 7K Fan to replace my FOP 32. Well, I installed the Gladiator, and after letting the computer run for about 5 mins, i was pretty surprised to see the cpu temp at 40c/104f, the exact same resting temp that my FOP 32 had (both with Arctic Silver 2). full load for 30 mins brings it up to 43/109; again, the same temp that my FOP ran at. what could warrant a copper heatsink with a 7k rpm fan doing the same job as a fop 32?

some other info: im running a tbird 800, not oc'ed. room temp is about 65-68f. my motherboard continually stays at 29c/84f. a7v mobo, 256mb pc133, msi gf2 gts pro 64.


I am sorry you were a victim here, but I think in the recent heatsink reviews one really has to carefully analyze first of all who writes the review, and are they possibly related to the producer of the respective product. One also has to bear in mind that most hses are sent in by the manufacturer, and that websites are unlikely to trash a product that they received for free. They usually offer qualifying statement like "...this is a real good heatsink for a system up to 900MHz..."

I have yet to see a reputable review that shows me an improvement of any copper heatsink over the FOP32 or the WBK38 (which I personally think is the best conventional mass produced heatsink available to date).

Yo
 

Aman99

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You got a point there, you see copper heatsinks, and u get half the reviews that love them, and half that don't. But if you look at globalwins and swiftechs, they get all good ratings from everywhere, not just a couple of places.

Aaron
 

Plat

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I have the OCZ Gladiator and the WBK38. Both are VERY GOOD hs.

What I found is that w/ good case cooling Cooper is Definitely better than Aluminum. W/ inadequate case cooling the aluminum hs's tend to work better.

it has to do w/ density of materials and the absolute amount heat each hs holds.

as to the OCZ Gladiator, if you are finding that it performs equally to or subpar the FOP32 than I would have to question how u put the HS on.

I have never had my gladiator do worse than my WBK38 which according to every review site outperforms the fop32.

I found that with VERY good Case cooling and using the Fan to draw air away from HS (sucking) that I got my best numbers for either HS.

Currently I'm back to my WBK cause I just couldn't stand the noise of the Delta, (oh btw, i've been using the Delta that came w/ my WBK on my gladiator). but instead of the Delta, I put a 36cfm Sunon 80 mm fan on my WBK and am getting decent performance. much quieter tho.

lastly the real disadvantage to copper is that unless ur using it w/ a high speed fan it really doesn't perform as well as aluminum.