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OCZ Gladiator or Thermalright SK6?? Which one to get??

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outhouse

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The SK6 is supposed to be just a little better then the Gladiator\Goldengate but rite now the Gladiator is on sale for 19.99 with a delta and around 16.00 with a YStech fan. I went with the Gladiator and after a good lapping she's doing a great job.
 

diehrd

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Look at the HEAT SINK REVIEWS on this site.

Here the SK6 WAS THE CLEAR WINNER.

I run a 1.2 at 1.43 and my temps stay at or below 45c using the SK6.The review you were lead to I beleive is not accurate.
 
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William

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The SK-6 is a much better heatsink than the Gladiator. I would get the SK-6 for an AMD cpu, and even an Intel CPU if you are willing to spend the money. You should get similar performance on the SK-6 with the YS Tech 26CFM fan compared to the Gladiator with a delta thus saving your ears. If you ever decide to go AMD and do some overclocking, you already have your hsf. I think its worth the extra $20.
 

outhouse

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Remeber if you run with a Delta to use the silicone trick in the tips section Ive done it to mine and it works great my Delta is now very tolerable and i'm using a duct which amplifies the noise if i did not have a duct it would be as quiet as my cheap case fans. when using the Gladiator\Goldengate and doing the silicone trick do it as the directions say to but when it comes time to use the tape i opted to use silicone instead because on this HS the tape would interfear with the airflow near the cooling fins.
 

Plat

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William.

have you actually tried the golden gate / gladiator? have you ever had one on your pc to test it?

i've had both, sk6 and gladiator. there is no statistical difference between the two. the gladiator did allow me a higher oc tho. i got my 1 ghz up to 1.466 w/ the gladiator (using a 27 CFM fan). SK6 never got up there for me.

swifty 462 allowed me to get to 1.533 but it wouldn't stay stable. i think the limit to this cpu / memory subsystem is 1.466 w/ air cooling.

if ur choosing between the sk6 and golden gate / gladiator, go with the one you can get a better price on.
 
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William

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i have not used the Gladiator, but I have yet to see a review where it gets better temps. Like I stated, I have seen the taisol hsf with a delta beat the gladiator with a delta. It probably won't matter a whole lot on an intel cpu though, but on an AMD 1.2ghz it would be huge.
 
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William

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Overclockers.com got the results of the SK-6 with a .16 C/W and the Gladiator at a .23 C/W. Pretty clear difference there. Won't be a huge factor in Intel cooling, but thats a huge difference for AMD cpus and overall a huge difference.
 

Plat

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i guess you missed the part where i said i had an AMD T-Bird processor.

let me give you a few more details.

i have an axia 1 ghz 266 fsb t-bird.

i ran this thing at 133 fsb * 11 multiplier = 1.466. this is the highest i've been able to oc this cpu. i wasn't able to achieve this w/ my sk6 w/ the gladiator, the WBK 38, the Zalman (which i currently use and love). the only hs i was able to achieve this with was the Gladiator using a 27 CFM fan and the Swiftech. since then i was also able to get my pc to boot and load windows at 1.533 w/ the swiftech, not the gladiator (tho i didn't try it w/ the delta fan on it) but it wasn't stable.

as i stated above, i really believe that the 1.466 is the max that this cpu / memory (cheap high density memory doesn't allow me to oc my fsb).

now, forget about what you read in the reviews for a sec, which is more important, the temperature (measured by in-socket thermistor of even overclocker.coms method) or the OC??

ultimately most of our goals, and the reason we keep playin w/ these hsf's ( i coulda bought 2 more 1 ghz t-birds for the amount of money i've spent on hs so far) is to see how high we can OC.

does a higher oc mean that the cpu will remain more stable at lower oc's?? YOU BET.

Temperature is not the goal or the end all here.

my temps all were below the mid 50's. for an MSI motherboard, those are decent temps. (w/ my original HSF running CPU at Default I got temps that went over 70 celsius).

i can understand if you say the sk6 is a good hs, but it seems presumptous to me on your part to say that it is better than the gladiator as you have NO experience w/ the gladiator.
 
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William

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well I am glad you found a good heatsink, but what if you have a unique case. I just used oc.com's review because they record temps the correct way(which is a way nobody can really do, but I will tell you what, I will get one when I buy my Sk-6 to test out.
 

joey_rjm5

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I am currently working on a new system and because of about a 30 dollar price difference, I went with the golden gate. Now I will be able to get some memory with the money I saved.
 

MGTasco

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William (Jul 23, 2001 09:31 p.m.):
Overclockers.com got the results of the SK-6 with a .16 C/W and the Gladiator at a .23 C/W. Pretty clear difference there. Won't be a huge factor in Intel cooling, but thats a huge difference for AMD cpus and overall a huge difference.

To be honest with you, my readings match very closely with Joe, except for a few heatsinks. Let me give you an example :

1) Gladiator
My reading with Delta 38cfm = 0.21 C/W
Joe's reading with stock 36cfm fan = 0.23C/W

2) CAK 38
My reading = 0.24C/W
Joe's reading = 0.25 C/W

3) Vantec FCE62540D
My reading with Delta 38 = 0.30C/W
Joe's reading = 0.30C/W

The rest you can find here :

But for Glaciator and SK-6, there seems to be a big discrepancy. For Glaciator, I gotten 0.26C/W and 0.23C/W for SK-6. I am not doubting Joe's reading or method, but somewhere is very wrong as far Glaciator and SK6 is concern. But we will just leave it as it is.

But don't brush the Gladiator aside for SK-6. The Golden gate price is really a steal. We could not get this heatsink over here in Singapore (if we could, it will be hot), but no way it was way inferior compared to the SK-6. And don't forget that the fins surface area is also larger on the Gladiator, I have made a good comparison of them in my link above, so do take a look
 
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William

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did you use an in socket thermistor for your tests? The reasons I ask is that on the Glaciator especially, the MBM5 temps are pretty inflated. As for the SK-6 i don't know why. I know the Gladiator has lot of surface area(;D) and that it is a steal, but the SK-6 also has a ton of surface area too(The glaciator doesn't, indoubtedly hurting it somewhat). I think if you are price contious, the Gladiator is the best budget buy right now, heck its only $10 if you account for the delta fan on it(usually $10 at most places). I am going to get one to get the delta fan and an SK-6 with a 26CFM Sunon fan to try out. Although I can't drill my heatsinks, I will use a thermistor epoxied to the core, which gives darn acurate readings. I do suspect the SK-6 to come out better, but not by a whole lot as it will only be on a celey(i have a duron if I get some time. I envision this Gladiator to become a Champion chipset hsf or the one to go on an older system I am building.
 

MGTasco

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William (Jul 24, 2001 05:14 a.m.):
did you use an in socket thermistor for your tests? The reasons I ask is that on the Glaciator especially, the MBM5 temps are pretty inflated. As for the SK-6 i don't know why. I know the Gladiator has lot of surface area(;D) and that it is a steal, but the SK-6 also has a ton of surface area too(The glaciator doesn't, indoubtedly hurting it somewhat). I think if you are price contious, the Gladiator is the best budget buy right now, heck its only $10 if you account for the delta fan on it(usually $10 at most places). I am going to get one to get the delta fan and an SK-6 with a 26CFM Sunon fan to try out. Although I can't drill my heatsinks, I will use a thermistor epoxied to the core, which gives darn acurate readings. I do suspect the SK-6 to come out better, but not by a whole lot as it will only be on a celey(i have a duron if I get some time. I envision this Gladiator to become a Champion chipset hsf or the one to go on an older system I am building.


Nope, I don't use mobo thermistors....I use digital thermometer with thermocouples, that's why most of my heatsink results matches Joe's except for Glaciator and SK-6.

For fins surface area, Gladiator has an area of 1094.40 cm square, the SK-6 has 969.12 cm square, so you can tell it yourself who has more.

But the most important thing between the Gladiator and SK-6,if you have read the link I given earlier (plus a photo to show too), is that the copper base of the Gladiator is only HALF as thick as the SK-6 copper base...which means heat can be transferred way faster from the base to the fins on the Gladiator. That's why some folks could o/c better using the Gladiator because the fast transfer of heat is very useful during the booting stage of the PC.

Read my link given in the above post to know more.
 

Plat

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nassoccer

nice and nice temps, btw. what mb u using? and what are you using to measure temps?

Most deaf

again. i hope your not just going by pictures. anyone who's actually held both the SK6 and the gladiator knows that if anything the gladiator has more surface area. the only reason the sk6 has "more fins" is cause they cut a swath right down the middle, right over the core, where the fins are needed the most. the gladiator doesn't have a swath down the mid like that and ends up w/ more surface area.