OK i have been reading and!!!!!

[Logans.mother]

Need help it choosing and filtering the list of lemmons.
what ever the mases say is a good deal ill get it plz dont reccomend whats not inthe list here. ill be over clocking running 4 fans 3 hard drives and adding other stuff.

DYNAPOWER
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-138-026&depa=0

ASIAPRO
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-195-003&depa=0

CODEGEN
APEX
POWMAX
PCMCIS
MGE

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Haven't been able to find out much about some of these, but PCMCIS seems to use HEC/Heroichi as a supplier for at least some PSUs, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-101-401&depa=0

HEC/Compucase is a decent brand.

Codegen, MGE, Asiapro, and Apex PSU's I can find at Newegg look to be all Deer, and should be avoided. Dynapower traces to Power Tech Industrial - no idea how good they are. Powmax is known to be not quite down at Deer level, but will be overrated.

Based on what you have listed up there, I'd take a chance with PCMCIS. However, for overclocking, I strongly suggest a Fortron/Sparkle over 350w.

Edit - just discovered Newegg has my old CWT 420w unit for dirt cheap. It's reasonably powerful and will last a good long while - I'll recommend that one too: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-111-702&depa=0

 

[Logans.mother]

you rock dude thanx i knew something was up with the ELcheapo brands ill wait for some more opinions you really helped.
PCMCIS
So this el cheapo for 28$ 400 watt
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-101-404&depa=0

OR 38$ 420watt
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-101-405&depa=0

but Dynapower was my favorite so far because i can get the case also which i also need i need more info on them i could not find any info for the past 3 hours i have been searching

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Almost forgot - welcome to the forums

 

[Logans.mother]

damit its a lemmon

here is the review http://www.overclockersonline.com/index.php?page=articles&num=185&pnum=1

With the 430 Watt power supply, it theoretically shouldn't have any problems powering all your latest toys. You do need to watch out on the current, it is rated 28.0A for the +3.3V rail, 30.0A for the +5.0V rail and 15.0A for the +12.0V rail. You may want to consider getting a new power supply if you’re running one beastly rig. I powered up just the unit and tested out the voltages with my trusty multi-meter and all the voltages did read slightly over the specifications.

Another issue with this power supply is that it only provides 4 big molex connectors and 2 small disk drive connectors for the 10 bay drives, 8 fans, the temperature display and the bubble bar lights! Since I'm dealing with the power supply, I'll deal the last issue. This unit has the typical 80 mm exhaust fan, however it doesn't have the usual 80-92mm fan for intake. This would dramatically improve airflow and cooling within the case, but I guess they decided to opt out on this option.

my enermax 300 watt has the same ratings for the 3.3v 5v and 12v for 170w so how do they get 480 watt when thay have the same ratings as my 300w supply

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Labels aren't everything unfortunately - if they were, my Fortron 530w would be considered underpowered for a 530w (it's just very underrated - 18a for the 12v). However, considering the low price of the Dynapower, I'd have to agree that it's probably not so great.

The CWT unit I linked to in my edit is a discontinued model (same as the Antec pp412x), which explains the price - mine was $110 Canadian 2 years ago. They must have found some old stock. Here's a review: http://www.mikhailtech.com/articles/psu/cwt420/

I would say if your budget is limited enough that you need a $25 PSU, I would go with that CWT or one of the Sparkle/Fortrons (even their 250w would be preferable to those Deers, and possibly more powerful). $38 is starting to get into Sparkle/Fortron range for a good one:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-486&depa=0

Edit - just saw your edit up there - those two particular PCMCIS units don't have a UL file number... can't be sure they're HEC. Some companies mix and match in their PSU line

 

[Logans.mother]

ok i found the one its listed in larva's famous sticky

enlight. this 1 guys says they only last 5 months i dont know if he was just talking crap to hurt there sails i need input on this because it exactly what i am looking for cheap, on larva's list,420 watts.

Larva's short list

1) Antec Solution Series
2) Antec True Power series
3) Enlight
4) Fortron Source Power (FSP)/Sparkle (SPI)
5) Herolchi (HEC)
6) PC Power and Cooling
7) TTGI
8) Vantec

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-604&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE

now is time to look for a 10$ deer case to go with that puppy

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Enlight is decent - it's a Sirtec made unit, like Thermaltake. Should last a while. The cases from Foxconn/Deer/Apex aren't too bad - metal's a little thin and prone to vibrations I found with my old case, but that's about it.

 

[Logans.mother]

vrey close call this morning i left my case sides off for cooling and my window fan really dose a great job but it started raining and i had my headhones on did not hear a thing until some of the rain got on me i checked my case and there was rain inside it lol.

i found my dream case but it cost too much 49$http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage...04-14.jpg/11-148-004-15.jpg/11-148-004-17.jpg

this deer case looks good 30$
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage...32-19.JPG/11-182-532-15.JPG/11-182-532-21.JPG

what am i supose to do with that CODEGEN psu throu it away?
I am looking at spending 50-65$ total for the psu+case the enlight is 37$ for 430 watts and the case bmust have a window with a fan in the middle.

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

I usually keep PSUs like that around in case I need the connectors from it, or other electronic parts from inside that are decent (amounts to not much in Deer's case). It's really up to you what to do with it.

Glad you noticed the rain in time... makes me glad my computers are nowhere near any windows

 

[Logans.mother]

this is a cwt psu in a aspire case. you reccomended this 420 model. if
its really a cwt ill get it

 

[Oklahoma Wolf]

That one is not a real CWT - it's one of Turbolink's "fake" units made by Real Power, and is significantly lower quality than a real CWT. You'd essentially be getting Powmax quality. I've seen the innards of the fake one - looked like a 250w unit to me. Here's a picture: http://www.ocmodshop.com/powerglowpsu/open.jpg

 

[Hedge]

I know you said don't list any that weren't on the list so I won't, and I know this sounds ****ty, no offense is meant, but man; you need to raise your standards a little and come off the bucks, even if its just a little more than 25 bucks.....I know that was kinda rude but dude, those are plain ugly imo and the psu's, well......