7800XT... and it's perfect for that res IMO.
Weird...we've been trying to get you to do that the entire thread.
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4940?? 8700XT??? 7800XT right????
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So sorry, to many numbers juggling in my head.
Yes 7800XT is what i meant.
and at the bottom the A9740 is supposed to be $940 as a price on a 9070 from Ebay.
I dont need bleeding edge tech here actually so a 7800XT and a 1440P should do more than i need it too.
So since ill be buing my monitor and possibly my GPU i can get them here next day so ill find a GPU first and then buy my monitor.
Ive sold items here before but that was 20 years ago.
I know you think its a waste of money but if i do go 7800XT ill But a TB of G5 NVME to play with.
Id love 64GB total of ram as i have 32 GB in my case now but id have to sell my 32GB kit first as i will only do 2 stick. so i can OC them right.
again wasted money but fun..
Thats $250 worth of stuff i could sink into a 9070 so i hope i find a good deal and take that route.
I guess we will see what i end up with.
Yes 7800XT is what i meant.
and at the bottom the A9740 is supposed to be $940 as a price on a 9070 from Ebay.
I dont need bleeding edge tech here actually so a 7800XT and a 1440P should do more than i need it too.
So since ill be buing my monitor and possibly my GPU i can get them here next day so ill find a GPU first and then buy my monitor.
Ive sold items here before but that was 20 years ago.
I know you think its a waste of money but if i do go 7800XT ill But a TB of G5 NVME to play with.
Id love 64GB total of ram as i have 32 GB in my case now but id have to sell my 32GB kit first as i will only do 2 stick. so i can OC them right.
again wasted money but fun..
Thats $250 worth of stuff i could sink into a 9070 so i hope i find a good deal and take that route.
I guess we will see what i end up with.
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whats the most you would think is too much for a 9070 xt?
I got news i could be paid tonight or Monday night, Had i known id be spending so much i would have just bought a gaming laptop. but it is what it is. Plus a laptop can never throw FPS's like a PC and id certantly not be getting a 32" screen.
what would be a comparable Nvidia card price and performance wise? im think i can possibly find a deal at $600 too $1K but i have a feeling it wont out perform a 9070 tho.
7800XT setup
9070 XT setup
Im really pushing and hoping i get the 9070 XT as it should make for a really nice gameplay. It wiould be more powerful enough to see the difference between the two setups.
I got news i could be paid tonight or Monday night, Had i known id be spending so much i would have just bought a gaming laptop. but it is what it is. Plus a laptop can never throw FPS's like a PC and id certantly not be getting a 32" screen.
what would be a comparable Nvidia card price and performance wise? im think i can possibly find a deal at $600 too $1K but i have a feeling it wont out perform a 9070 tho.
7800XT setup
9070 XT setup
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PowerColor Reaper AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6. Condition is New. Shipped with UPS Ground Saver.
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Im really pushing and hoping i get the 9070 XT as it should make for a really nice gameplay. It wiould be more powerful enough to see the difference between the two setups.
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IMO it depends on the model. I wouldn't want to pay more than $700 for a card that lists for $600 (or $650 for a non-XT card that lists for $550). I also wouldn't go over $800 for an upper tier XT model. I paid $790 for a PowerColor Red Devil 9070 XT. There is also a PowerColor Red Devil XT Limited for $850, which IMO isn't worth the extra $60.
Most brands have 4 or 5 models. The base model, one step up "Gaming" for example, the "Gaming OC" model, the top tier model, and the Grail model.
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Values have been going out the door.
$600 for a RX 7800XT
$1000 for a RX 9070 XT
So i feel stuck with what the market will hold. Id expect the 7800XT at $450 as to what i think it should be.
My only options is pay the scalpers what they ask as Nvidia is out of touch with pricing.
From what your saying you wouldn't buy any GPU by you standards.
Heres my deal and that is ill never have the cash besides right now to buy either cards. So i gotta buy something now. Id love to put the money back and buy in a couple months when prices normalize. I do have a an IGP to use if needed.
But i cant save money for crap.
Im also looking at card value which means it will be worth more longer.
Granted a 7800XT and 1440P is all i need personally.
But a 9070XT and 4K monitor would be fun and make my experience alot more fun.
Looking from what ive told you can you recommend what you think is the best route?
I think i may as well go with the 9070XT as i went all out on everything else and skimping on the GPU and monitor make no sense.
to catch you up here is my system so you can see where this rig is heading.
9900X, 32GB CL6000 cl30, ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ,ID-COOLING FX360 PRO Liquid CPU Cooler,Corsair RM1200x Shift, 1TB Corsair Gen5 and 4TB Corsair 4TB Gen4
Im gonna buy the 1TB of just to play with, But you see how this build is heading.
Seeing all this what would you put in GPU wise?
$600 for a RX 7800XT
$1000 for a RX 9070 XT
So i feel stuck with what the market will hold. Id expect the 7800XT at $450 as to what i think it should be.
My only options is pay the scalpers what they ask as Nvidia is out of touch with pricing.
From what your saying you wouldn't buy any GPU by you standards.
Heres my deal and that is ill never have the cash besides right now to buy either cards. So i gotta buy something now. Id love to put the money back and buy in a couple months when prices normalize. I do have a an IGP to use if needed.
But i cant save money for crap.
Im also looking at card value which means it will be worth more longer.
Granted a 7800XT and 1440P is all i need personally.
But a 9070XT and 4K monitor would be fun and make my experience alot more fun.
Looking from what ive told you can you recommend what you think is the best route?
I think i may as well go with the 9070XT as i went all out on everything else and skimping on the GPU and monitor make no sense.
to catch you up here is my system so you can see where this rig is heading.
9900X, 32GB CL6000 cl30, ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ,ID-COOLING FX360 PRO Liquid CPU Cooler,Corsair RM1200x Shift, 1TB Corsair Gen5 and 4TB Corsair 4TB Gen4
Im gonna buy the 1TB of just to play with, But you see how this build is heading.
Seeing all this what would you put in GPU wise?
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I think you truly will not be able to tell the difference between the Gen5 and Gen4 drive. Maybe they've gotten better at randoms, but you really only see it with large files (sequential) like 4k video (edit again: I mean moving whole video files around, it should have no impact on playback). Maybe I'm wrong I'm a Luddite here I just moved my OS drive from SATA, but that was because I literally couldn't tell the difference day to day.
EDIT: Hey I'm sorry if you answered and I didn't see, but a Microcenter is starting to look like its worth a decent drive, as they seem to be keeping prices sane by whats in stock. 7800xt for $540, 9070 for $620.
Things are crazy now even the 6800XT I bought 18 months ago is $50 more expensive now than it was then (and that's the lowest price I saw, there's also a 3rd party Amazon listing for $1225). If you can get by on the integrated graphics for a bit and find some way to save up for a card (piggy bank you have to break from a thrift store, under the mattress, behind the fish sticks in the freezer) I really think that's a better idea.
EDIT: Hey I'm sorry if you answered and I didn't see, but a Microcenter is starting to look like its worth a decent drive, as they seem to be keeping prices sane by whats in stock. 7800xt for $540, 9070 for $620.
Things are crazy now even the 6800XT I bought 18 months ago is $50 more expensive now than it was then (and that's the lowest price I saw, there's also a 3rd party Amazon listing for $1225). If you can get by on the integrated graphics for a bit and find some way to save up for a card (piggy bank you have to break from a thrift store, under the mattress, behind the fish sticks in the freezer) I really think that's a better idea.
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I know there isnt much difference between Gen5 and 4, Its a mental thing.
But for $160 for 1TB its not gonna bust my budget, And since i switched from a budget build to a high end build it only makes sense to continue the trend. Im still counting on a 4TB Gen4 for everything but windows. Ill be highley invested into that drive. random reads and writes and still be as fast feeling could be done with a Gen3 drive actually. basically i want it as a toy to play with.
I have a Micro center in Columbus but no car. But i could call and verify they have the 9070xt in stock and even if i take an Uber 40 miles ill still save money.
I honestly cant save money, Seriously it will eat me alive knowing i have it. Plus im on a fixed income so getting such a large sum of cash rarely happens.
The 9070XT is like the Gen 5 drive, Both costs more than i need to spend.
Both will hold their value also.
im going to do one final search the day my payday hits and what ever is the best deal ill go with.
But for $160 for 1TB its not gonna bust my budget, And since i switched from a budget build to a high end build it only makes sense to continue the trend. Im still counting on a 4TB Gen4 for everything but windows. Ill be highley invested into that drive. random reads and writes and still be as fast feeling could be done with a Gen3 drive actually. basically i want it as a toy to play with.
I have a Micro center in Columbus but no car. But i could call and verify they have the 9070xt in stock and even if i take an Uber 40 miles ill still save money.
I honestly cant save money, Seriously it will eat me alive knowing i have it. Plus im on a fixed income so getting such a large sum of cash rarely happens.
The 9070XT is like the Gen 5 drive, Both costs more than i need to spend.
Both will hold their value also.
im going to do one final search the day my payday hits and what ever is the best deal ill go with.
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yeah i hear you a 40 min uber can add up quick. I'm guessing stock will be limited as well, and they won't be likely to hold it for you.
Honestly if you're having a hard time I think you would get a lot out of a mid range / budget system. Things are not like they used to be, tweaking can be fun but OCing stuff doesn't do as much, and the midrange stuff gives a really solid experience. For example back in the day we were always impressed to run 1280x1024, 1080p is 58% more pixels. We were also often happy to get 30fps in games. These days even a modest rig can run 1080p 60hz easily. You could likely return the CPU as well and get a more modest one.
Of course it's your choice, but I think it's hard to conceptualize what the performance means when we've been out of the game for a while. If you want to go for the moon, we're here for it, but I'm just sitting here thinking about how perfectly happy I am with mostly mid range gear with a few upgrades here and there since 2018. When I built the system I was stubborn about memory because for whatever reason it stuck out to me as a big deal in the past, so I got the best chips I could (samsung B die) but to be honest I don't think I'd even notice if XMP was disabled much less if I'm using the best overclock I found (I'm not, but it was fun to find as a project).
My upgrades have been CPU: 2600x -> 3700x; Memory: 2x8 -> 4x8; GPU Vega 64 -> 6800XT; Storage 1TB SATA, added second NVMe for games, replaced SATA driver with 2TB NVMe (I probably went overkill on it).
Edit: I should add the CPU and memory were mainly to play a specific game that was poorly optimized (DCS) - it helped a little but didn't fix the problem. I don't play it anymore, problem solved lol
Honestly if you're having a hard time I think you would get a lot out of a mid range / budget system. Things are not like they used to be, tweaking can be fun but OCing stuff doesn't do as much, and the midrange stuff gives a really solid experience. For example back in the day we were always impressed to run 1280x1024, 1080p is 58% more pixels. We were also often happy to get 30fps in games. These days even a modest rig can run 1080p 60hz easily. You could likely return the CPU as well and get a more modest one.
Of course it's your choice, but I think it's hard to conceptualize what the performance means when we've been out of the game for a while. If you want to go for the moon, we're here for it, but I'm just sitting here thinking about how perfectly happy I am with mostly mid range gear with a few upgrades here and there since 2018. When I built the system I was stubborn about memory because for whatever reason it stuck out to me as a big deal in the past, so I got the best chips I could (samsung B die) but to be honest I don't think I'd even notice if XMP was disabled much less if I'm using the best overclock I found (I'm not, but it was fun to find as a project).
My upgrades have been CPU: 2600x -> 3700x; Memory: 2x8 -> 4x8; GPU Vega 64 -> 6800XT; Storage 1TB SATA, added second NVMe for games, replaced SATA driver with 2TB NVMe (I probably went overkill on it).
Edit: I should add the CPU and memory were mainly to play a specific game that was poorly optimized (DCS) - it helped a little but didn't fix the problem. I don't play it anymore, problem solved lol
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Thanks for your heart felt concerns and opinion. It will surely be remembered in the next few days as wait for my deposit. I also checked Micro Center close to me and were fresh out of 9070's and had plenty of 7800 xt's but it wasnt much cheaper than Amazon. That round trip would be around $150 for an Uber which in the case of the 9070 would be worth it.
Here is the thing if i go with a 7800 xt ill save $500 or so, But ive already found something else id like to buy with that money id save. So its getting spent one way or another. Im one of those easy come, Easy go mindset person.
And your right i cant conceptualize the gains in performance over what i last built. and thats just with the 7800XT as the 9070 xt and 4K setup may blow my mind.
I need the 7800xt and 1440p
But i want the 9070xt and 4K
Im just stuck as to which is the right move. I just know i dont want to feel like im missing out and cant go back and fix it.
I just looked at my Amazon cart with the 7800xt and 1440P in it and all my drives and im at $1500
The 9070 route will add up too $2000 which is crazy as i have $1500 invested in parts already.
I remember back in the day i broke down and spent $500 on an Nvidia 1050 and flashed it to the OC variant.
I think my plan is to search Ebay for a good deal from a safe established member for under $1k
Amazon is at $650 for the 7800XT now so ill search Ebay for that too. Thats only a $350 differance in cards and the 4K panel adds $150 more over the 1440p
If you were in my shoes and had the extra cash to spend and needed a card and monitor would you go all out or play it safe?
look at my system also, as i dont want to do it injustice now by trying to save a few pucks.
9900X,Asus Tuf mobo, AIO, 32gb of 6000mhz cl30, 1TB of Gen5 and 4 TB of Gen4
I just dont want a weak spot in my system that is like a fast car but has a stock tranny in it.
Those turbos dont do crap if you have to lay off the gas in fear you will will blow the tranny.
I appreciate you listening to me ramble and give good advice!
EDIT- Amazon now has the 9070xt's in stock with one at $939 so if that stays that way i dont mind the expence as i trust buying from them,
Here is the thing if i go with a 7800 xt ill save $500 or so, But ive already found something else id like to buy with that money id save. So its getting spent one way or another. Im one of those easy come, Easy go mindset person.
And your right i cant conceptualize the gains in performance over what i last built. and thats just with the 7800XT as the 9070 xt and 4K setup may blow my mind.
I need the 7800xt and 1440p
But i want the 9070xt and 4K
Im just stuck as to which is the right move. I just know i dont want to feel like im missing out and cant go back and fix it.
I just looked at my Amazon cart with the 7800xt and 1440P in it and all my drives and im at $1500
The 9070 route will add up too $2000 which is crazy as i have $1500 invested in parts already.
I remember back in the day i broke down and spent $500 on an Nvidia 1050 and flashed it to the OC variant.
I think my plan is to search Ebay for a good deal from a safe established member for under $1k
Amazon is at $650 for the 7800XT now so ill search Ebay for that too. Thats only a $350 differance in cards and the 4K panel adds $150 more over the 1440p
If you were in my shoes and had the extra cash to spend and needed a card and monitor would you go all out or play it safe?
look at my system also, as i dont want to do it injustice now by trying to save a few pucks.
9900X,Asus Tuf mobo, AIO, 32gb of 6000mhz cl30, 1TB of Gen5 and 4 TB of Gen4
I just dont want a weak spot in my system that is like a fast car but has a stock tranny in it.
Those turbos dont do crap if you have to lay off the gas in fear you will will blow the tranny.
I appreciate you listening to me ramble and give good advice!
EDIT- Amazon now has the 9070xt's in stock with one at $939 so if that stays that way i dont mind the expence as i trust buying from them,
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quick question, Would you have just one HDD and have games and Windows on it. Or two drives one just for windows and the other for games?
As it stands i can get 4TB stick of Gen5 and put everything on there. $400
Or 1 Gen5 1TB in my full speed slot for Windows and 4TB of Gen4 for games. $450
$50 extra gets me an extra 1TB in the 2 stick form.
Kinda odd i can get Gen5 drives almost the same price as Gen4.
Yes i fully understand how Gen5 works and what it will do and not do.
Also ive decided on a Graphics plan. Ill be getting the RX 9070 XT and 32" 4K monitor.
Amazon and Ebay both have them under $1k now.
As it stands i can get 4TB stick of Gen5 and put everything on there. $400
Or 1 Gen5 1TB in my full speed slot for Windows and 4TB of Gen4 for games. $450
$50 extra gets me an extra 1TB in the 2 stick form.
Kinda odd i can get Gen5 drives almost the same price as Gen4.
Yes i fully understand how Gen5 works and what it will do and not do.
Also ive decided on a Graphics plan. Ill be getting the RX 9070 XT and 32" 4K monitor.
Amazon and Ebay both have them under $1k now.
I do both. My 2TB 5.0 drive is partitioned to ~400/1600GB, OS/games. I have another 2TB 4.0 for games as well.
With it like this you don't have to download games again and can wipe out your OS at will, if needed. If it's all one drove you can do that to bu simply partitioning it and putting all games on the backend.
With it like this you don't have to download games again and can wipe out your OS at will, if needed. If it's all one drove you can do that to bu simply partitioning it and putting all games on the backend.
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Thats rather good thinking. I hate having windows on my game drive.
ill have to look at whats available at a good price as i want to use Crucial as much as possible.
I suppose i could take a 4TB Gen5 drive and partition it, but i feel better with 2 separate drives.
I hate spending so much on Gen4 drives as thats what i have on my 2nd and 3rd slots.
After looking at the numbers i do believe ill get a 2TB Crucial T705 for windows and programs and a 4TB Crucial T500 Gen4 for games. Its $50 more than i planned but i like the thought of 2TB with the T705 rather than 1TB i had planned. it comes out to $550 which is $100 more than i planned but i gain 1TB of Gen5
ill have to look at whats available at a good price as i want to use Crucial as much as possible.
I suppose i could take a 4TB Gen5 drive and partition it, but i feel better with 2 separate drives.
I hate spending so much on Gen4 drives as thats what i have on my 2nd and 3rd slots.
After looking at the numbers i do believe ill get a 2TB Crucial T705 for windows and programs and a 4TB Crucial T500 Gen4 for games. Its $50 more than i planned but i like the thought of 2TB with the T705 rather than 1TB i had planned. it comes out to $550 which is $100 more than i planned but i gain 1TB of Gen5
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Does anyone see anything not so good about this 4K monitor?
Im not well versed in monitor specs.
Seeing how important the monitor and GPU are i dont want to make any mistakes or everything before it is a waste if it doesnt look good on the eyes.
Im looking for a 4K 32" curved monitor with a minimum of 144hz
Im not well versed in monitor specs.
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Im looking for a 4K 32" curved monitor with a minimum of 144hz
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I am on the hunt for a good 2.1 sound system around $100, Amazon or Newegg if possible.
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I can make a new thread to keep a bunch of non needed info out. Ill fix it here in a moment. My 9070 should be here any minute so i may get delayed.
I didnt have the wifi driver at windows install andd now it has no options to add the wifi driver.
Yes im dumping this 32GB kit and going too 2x48GB 96GB 2 dimm kit.
I had some impresive RAM benchmarks yesterday i was in the top 97% of all that tried the benchmark. My T705 was 97% also i do believe.
I didnt have the wifi driver at windows install andd now it has no options to add the wifi driver.
Yes im dumping this 32GB kit and going too 2x48GB 96GB 2 dimm kit.
I had some impresive RAM benchmarks yesterday i was in the top 97% of all that tried the benchmark. My T705 was 97% also i do believe.
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too late.
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MY build and all the benchmark numbers
I was asked to have a thread that documents my build. As it stands i have my last major part being delivered any moment from Amazon and Fedex. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DTHMPWFR?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title I have a vertical mount for it but it takes up alot of room but i may use it still...
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