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madman_sam81

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I know this is nothing new to any of you, but I'm excited and had to post about it...

I, finally, picked up some silver thermal compound today. I was sick and tired of putting it off again and again. Anyways, I applied it, strictly following the directions on the back of the package (which were basically identical to the directions posted on here). I've been up and running for about an hour and a half now and I'm kicking myself in the butt for not doing this a LONG time ago!

I bought the computer as a "bare bones" package, so the processor, heatsink and fan were already installed when I brought it home. The place that I bought it from used one of those thermal pads, as opposed to the compound.

Anyways, here are the numbers (I am only posting the 100% load temps, as I don't recall what the idle temps were and would rather keep folding than find out...):

With thermal pad:
CPU - 46C
Motherboard - 38C-40C

With silver compound:
CPU - 36C
Motherboard - 30C - 32C

The processor is a P4 1.8a, but I oc'd it to about 2250 MHz (FSB - 125). The core voltage is at it's default level. I am using (1) 80mm exhaust fan, (1) blower fan (mounts in a PCI slot), and the (1) fan for the power supply. The fan on the processor is the stock Intel one and I am only using one of those 3-fan hard drive coolers as my intake, since my case isn't the best and doesn't provide a fan mount in the front.
 

Korndog

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hm..
10c drop on ur cpu, not bad
8c drop on ur motherboard.. ?
did u apply the compound on your motherboard chipset as well?
if not, it may be a result from change in room/case temperature
 
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madman_sam81

madman_sam81

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It's just the thermal compound that they sell at CompUSA. Ya, I know it's overpriced, but I wasn't actually the one that bought it (as in, paid for it) anyways, so I have no complaints. lol

The package actually came with two mini-syringe type applicators full of the compound...I didn't even use half (maybe not even a quarter) of the compound from the first applicator though.
 
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madman_sam81

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Ya, the drop in the motherboard temperature readings must just be from the temperature drop for the air inside the case. Because, no, I didn't even think of putting the compound anywhere else but between the heatsink and the processor.
 

cV

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hehe... those pads are more insulators than transferers...

the difference is quite astonishing, no doubt :)
 

Jognt

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the drop in ambient temp is probably because the temp of the air that the CPU HSF blows out over the mobo is lower... this in turn makes the entire case cooler :)

good job, and nice temps (after the compound ;))

maybe you shouldve gotten some AS5 though?

edit: johan, i think he ment that the pack contained two seperate syringes (or something lol) and not that its one of those epoxy-two-syringe-put-together-never-get-loose type of things :)
 

d]g[ts

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titan_as.jpg

I believe Comp USA sells both in this pic and im guessing you got the 1 on top( cus i've seen that in a 2 pack there )
 

Silversinksam

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madman_sam81 said:
I know this is nothing new to any of you, but I'm excited and had to post about it...

I, finally, picked up some silver thermal compound today. I was sick and tired of putting it off again and again. Anyways, I applied it, strictly following the directions on the back of the package (which were basically identical to the directions posted on here). I've been up and running for about an hour and a half now and I'm kicking myself in the butt for not doing this a LONG time ago!

I bought the computer as a "bare bones" package, so the processor, heatsink and fan were already installed when I brought it home. The place that I bought it from used one of those thermal pads, as opposed to the compound.

Anyways, here are the numbers (I am only posting the 100% load temps, as I don't recall what the idle temps were and would rather keep folding than find out...):

With thermal pad:
CPU - 46C
Motherboard - 38C-40C

With silver compound:
CPU - 36C
Motherboard - 30C - 32C

The processor is a P4 1.8a, but I oc'd it to about 2250 MHz (FSB - 125). The core voltage is at it's default level. I am using (1) 80mm exhaust fan, (1) blower fan (mounts in a PCI slot), and the (1) fan for the power supply. The fan on the processor is the stock Intel one and I am only using one of those 3-fan hard drive coolers as my intake, since my case isn't the best and doesn't provide a fan mount in the front.

Just a quick snipet, but that Compusa 'silver' compound does not contain any silver, its repackaged Star 700 compound and is not even close to being a great thermal paste. Your room temp must have changed for your processor temp to drop 10* while using Star 700 compound. That combined with the fact the thermal pad is a terrible conduit of heat.
:rolleyes:
 

CCW

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**Sneaks in stealthily and spots chance to pimp AS5 review**

HERE LoL

If you did not apply the new TIM to the chipset and only the processor then it seems like there was a drop in the cases ambient temp due to some sort of change in airflow unless of course the hot air from the processor is usually blown over the Northbridge? Is it possible for you to post a picture of your system please?

Craig
 

hipster

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Well hell, the way you guys are talking I guess I should use that AS5 I got coming with my Panaflow fans on Monday! I'll be setting up a new rig then and have not even opened my 2.4Cmo yet. I didn't know if I should really use that stuff or just thew pad from Intel.
 

Silversinksam

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hipster said:
Well hell, the way you guys are talking I guess I should use that AS5 I got coming with my Panaflow fans on Monday! I'll be setting up a new rig then and have not even opened my 2.4Cmo yet. I didn't know if I should really use that stuff or just thew pad from Intel.

Any thermal paste, even that white goop is better than the Intel thermal pad.
 
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madman_sam81

madman_sam81

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Just a quick snipet, but that Compusa 'silver' compound does not contain any silver, its repackaged Star 700 compound and is not even close to being a great thermal paste. Your room temp must have changed for your processor temp to drop 10* while using Star 700 compound. That combined with the fact the thermal pad is a terrible conduit of heat.

SSS, check out the pictures in the post directly above yours. CompUSA does in fact sell a silver thermal compound.

Specifications:
- Made with 99% pure micronized silver
- 85% to 90% silver content by weight
- Extended temperature limits: -50C to 170C
- Thermal conductivity: +/-8.2 w/m k
- Thermal resistance: under 0.06 C/W
- Negligible electrical conductivity

Also, yes AS5 would have been a better compound to use, however, as I stated in the original post; I wasn't the one that bought it. I, however, knew that it would, no doubt, be much more efficient than the crappy thermal pad that was on there at the time; so I used it.
 

Silversinksam

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madman_sam81 said:


SSS, check out the pictures in the post directly above yours. CompUSA does in fact sell a silver thermal compound.

Specifications:
- Made with 99% pure micronized silver
- 85% to 90% silver content by weight
- Extended temperature limits: -50C to 170C
- Thermal conductivity: +/-8.2 w/m k
- Thermal resistance: under 0.06 C/W
- Negligible electrical conductivity

Also, yes AS5 would have been a better compound to use, however, as I stated in the original post; I wasn't the one that bought it. I, however, knew that it would, no doubt, be much more efficient than the crappy thermal pad that was on there at the time; so I used it.

I reiterate that the Compusa product has ZERO silver in the silver labeled paste, COMPUSA used Arctic Silvers own pictures of the Bogus paste. They can write what they want on the product description, It has Zero silver in it.

The Only 'Silver' based product Compusa carries is Arctic Silver paste sold there, buy the other paste sold there as I stated earlier has ZERO silver in it? Want to bet me that I am wrong? I'll make a friendly bet with all proceeds to charity if you want ;)
 

d]g[ts

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SSS I got that pic from The AS website cus i knew thats where i saw what he was talking about. When I looked at compusa's site it had no pic. so i went to as's and grabed the one that showed what stuff he's using. And madman_sam81 I believe what SSS has to say about the silver grease, Because he knows his S*** here and it stinks compared to real AS3 (tried them both)