Overclocking b-die memory on MSI X470 gaming pro carbon

[laissez]

So I have a problem with overclocking my g.skill trident z f4-3200c15d-16gtz b-die memory. With my MSI x470 gaming pro carbon motherboard I can't for some reason change manually dram voltage. What should I do and what settings should I use to get these to run at 3600 MHz 15-15-15-35 or 16-16-16-35 which these should do fine: https://www.overclockers.com/forums...dent-Z-2x8GB-DDR4-3200-CL15-F4-3200C15D-16GTZ

CPU: ryzen 3700X
Ram: g.skill trident z f4-3200c15d-16gtz



E: managed to change dram voltage.

 

[Woomack]

As long as BIOS is good then all you need is to manually set main timings to 16-16-16-36, DRAM voltage at 1.35-1.40V, and memory clock at 3600. If it won't work then you can check 1.45V memory voltage or CPU NB/SoC Voltage up to 1.2V.

 

[laissez]

As long as BIOS is good then all you need is to manually set main timings to 16-16-16-36, DRAM voltage at 1.35-1.40V, and memory clock at 3600. If it won't work then you can check 1.45V memory voltage or CPU NB/SoC Voltage up to 1.2V.

Got this kind of results with Dram calculator, can I still make them better somehow? Should I try 15-15-15-32 instead of 16-16-16-36 or something similar?

 

[Woomack]

you can set 14-14-14 at a higher memory voltage but it won't really help in performance, actually nothing will really help from this point and is not worth to waste time

 

[laissez]

you can set 14-14-14 at a higher memory voltage but it won't really help in performance, actually nothing will really help from this point and is not worth to waste time

Ok thanks, these settings runs butter smooth for me, I'll stop wasting my time on memory overclocking now. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/36895284

 

[PatrickG]

As long as BIOS is good then all you need is to manually set main timings to 16-16-16-36, DRAM voltage at 1.35-1.40V, and memory clock at 3600. If it won't work then you can check 1.45V memory voltage or CPU NB/SoC Voltage up to 1.2V.

I have to run my Trident Z neo C16 3200 at 1.45v (F4-3200C16D-32GTZN) in order to keep it stable. Ram Temps sit around 30-33c idle (each temp is one of the sticks) and under load run around 39 - 40c ( temp for each stick) according to the temp sensors on the ram. So far seems to run fine, no errors after running mem test overnight. CPU Ryzen 2700x running at 4.2ghz at 1.375v. at 72c under load. BUT the only thing that kills the system is Cinebench R20, nothing else kills the system, I am thinking its the AVX that ends up being too much. But that's my experience. if I drop the CPU down to 4.1ghz 1.35v Cinebench R20 goes though without a hitch.

 

[Zerileous]

Are you asking a question? If so maybe a new thread would be best. Otherwise, I'm not sure how much help this will be. I would bet that the ICs in your memory kit are not B-die and will not perform the same as the ones in question in this thread.

 

[PatrickG]

As long as BIOS is good then all you need is to manually set main timings to 16-16-16-36, DRAM voltage at 1.35-1.40V, and memory clock at 3600. If it won't work then you can check 1.45V memory voltage or CPU NB/SoC Voltage up to 1.2V.

I have been searching forums everywhere, and this is the only thread that came up when I tried to search for "K4A8G085W[B/C]-BCPB" Thaiphoon does not tell me the Die type (Besides Samsung), This kit is 2x16GB 3200 CL16 Dual Rank.
though tons and tons of searches I see some call it C die and some call it B die, its not a HUGE deal, but I would really like to know for the sake of voltage mainly.

Sorry if this is not the right place, just getting desperate for info from people that know memory better than I do.

Thanks!

 

[Woomack]

The main difference is that C die won't run at so tight timings and won't really work at more than DDR4-3800. You can expect that good C die will make 3600 16-18-18 ~1.40-1.45V. Worse C die will run at 3600 CL18-22-22 1.35-1.40V and won't really react to higher voltages. B die will make 3600 16-16-16 1.35V and lower bins ~1.45V.