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P4P800-D or P4C800-E Deluxe?

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hipster

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Which one would you get and why? Thanks for posting!
(edit) Well I decided to just get the P4C800-E deluxe and be done with it! The P4P800 deluxe I just got had been rumaged thru and I thought " that's a bad omen" so I rma-ed it. This one I think is just as good a deal pricewise since it's got better features and more/better accessories.
Well, that concludes my "off the cuff" purchasing spree now I just have to look forward to the turbulent times from my ol'lady when she sees the statements' and any setup problems I may encounter! Any advice on these..............................?
 
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Mr Gadget

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sp00L said:
I hid my visa bill from the ol' lady :D

And good purchase, the p4c800-E is supposedly Prescott ready.

Spool, I see that you have basically the same system I just ordered! P4C800-E Delux today with a 3.2C and Muskin PC3500 level II. Do I need to use active cooling on the NB? I will be doing the vdimm mod and my goal is to run everything 1:1. I can order a Swiftech MCX159 if I have to, but would prefer not to since I dropped a bundle on this upgrade :eek:
 
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hipster

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sp00L said:
I hid my visa bill from the ol' lady :D

And good purchase, the p4c800-E is supposedly Prescott ready.
Thanks for the encouragement sp00L! I don't know why though that everybody says " prescott ready" I don't think I'll be looking to upgrade this processor soon ( I just got it!) and the Prescott will be using a new pin config/package anyways? I mean, won't the next upgrade path be a new mobo,processor,case, and who knows what else anyways.
 

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Plus, no one wants the first product of a new technology. I just got mine too and plan on going prescott after they work out the bugs and I get some of this money out of the P4 and mobo. Another year or year and a half will be plenty :) Have fun!
 

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Spool, I see that you have basically the same system I just ordered! P4C800-E Delux today with a 3.2C and Muskin PC3500 level II. Do I need to use active cooling on the NB? I will be doing the vdimm mod and my goal is to run everything 1:1. I can order a Swiftech MCX159 if I have to, but would prefer not to since I dropped a bundle on this upgrade :eek:

As if my visa bill wasn't bad enough, I plopped the swiftech cooler on the nb last weekend cuz there was nothing left for me to do to it unless I paint the case. I noticed NO difference in my oc. Active cooling on the nb comes into play when you are around 250/260 and up. Once you get things assembled, touch the n/b heatsink and see how warm it is. You can always get the tiger 1 chipset cooler that Thermaltake makes for under $10. The swiftech is overkill unless you are trying for 275 up. I ran just fine with the stock heatsink which never got warm to the touch up to 232. I could even boot at 240 but it was highly unstable but the heatsink was still not warm. My 9800 literally cooks inside the case and the ram is warmer than the bottom of my cpu heatsink.

I'd say save ur money. Rarely and very rarely will you see any P4 over 3.7 on air. But what adds insult to injury is my 10yr old uses my unclocked stock 2500+ AMD system and is owning me in games. He has my old TI4200 too!:eek:

So, the performance gain over stock 3.2 is almost unoticeable until you start benching. Then the holy grail of high oc's and tight memory timings become all too tempting.
 

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sp00l, thanks for your reply! I kinda figured that if I chose the 3.2C that I would not need the MCX159. Thanks for the confrimation!

I am also waiting to see how Prescott does, I am planning to build a home theater media pc using a Shuttle SFF sometime in 2004 - I am thinking that I might try one of the lower multiplier chips in my current system and move the poorer performer to the Shuttle. It is nice to have an upgrade path open, I almost went with an Epox board this time, but wasnt sure that it would support Prescott so I opted for the Asus. Really wanted a ICMax3 but seems to have too many problems for me to want to deal with!

Know what you mean, my 9yr old grandson cleans my clock using my Toshiba laptop on my home lan! I was hoping that I would get some advantage on him with the new rig but looks like I probably wont! Ahhh to have quick reflexes again eh! ;)
 

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Mr Gadget said:
Really wanted a ICMax3 but seems to have too many problems for me to want to deal with!

I don't know if I've mentioned it, but I have a max3 on the shelf. It had all the problems with high volts and mem that are documented all over the net. The marketing hype sells that board but it's only half done. Plus the otes has green lights. Ugh. I already went through my window/cold cathode phase. :D

If you think he's cleaning ur clock now, don't let him get on your main rig!!! I made that mistake already and had to threaten 'puter banishment to get him off!
 

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And good purchase, the p4c800-E is supposedly Prescott ready.

The P4P's will also take a Prescott. The first release prescott's will be 478 pin.

Do I need to use active cooling on the NB? I will be doing the vdimm mod and my goal is to run everything 1:1.

If you mount a side intake fan blown at the NB and the ram it will take care of both problems. With the volt mod done You add a significant amount of heat to the ram.